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I think we were always told it was going to be bad before it got better.
I wasn't old enough to vote for Brexit at the time (just under the voting age), and I likely would have voted for Remain had I had the chance, though it feels a little unreasonable to judge the outcome of the Brexit decision just yet.
Okay but when should the outcome be judged then? What would it take in the future to decide Brexit had been ultimately successful?
I'm an outsider looking in, but it seems like it's directly failed in some ways Brexiteers promised success (NHS funding), created a complicated customs situation with Northern Ireland, and done nothing of obvious benefit. For it to be successful in the future something needs to change for the better, and I'm not sure what would.
We are in a more resilient position outside the EU than we were inside of it; we are dictating our own laws, we are becoming more stable by no longer relying on immigration to fill in the gaps of our job market, no longer reliant on foreign aid.
In the short term, of course this is painful. It's withdrawal symptoms. In the long-term, it means that the UK will stick around for longer, regardless of whatever turmoil our neighbours get into.
Lol no longer relying on immigration. Last year had the highest immigration level ever....
What's the evidence? Can you point to any similar situation where a country was part of a free trade bloc like the EU only to leave it and doing better outside?
I'm honestly curious. Because if there is no evidence then what you're describing is more hope and dreams than anything else.
I studied systems theory, I'm just recounting what I know based on how I understand systems work.
pp. 83-5 Thinking in Systems Donella Meadows talks about hierarchy, resilience, etc.
How does that tie in with the aims of brexit? Won't the four freedoms make the economic system work better? Isn't that why they exist?
Since it sounds like you don’t have much experience with how conservatives work, here’s a tip:
It’s not going to get better.