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Could we get official word on what Kbin's stance is towards federating with Meta? (kbin.social)

submitted 1 year ago by Roundcat@kbin.social to c/kbinMeta@kbin.social

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I would like to know if I can feel safe here, or if I should pack it up and start looking elsewhere sooner rather than later.

If the kbin staff have already made there intentions clear, please let me know.

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[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People may have legitimate reason to communicate with people on Threads, and because they may disagree with Facebook on a moral level (like me), you shouldn't force them into Zuck's slimy fingers.

By opening up the fediverse to Facebook, you're already in Zuck's slimy fingers. You're trying to have your cake and eat it too. Doesn't work like that. Those who federate with them will get eaten by them.

And here's a point for you to consider:

Why don't you just host your own instance? Federate with Threads AND the rest of the Fediverse? Why are you trying to convince us to federate with Facebook at all??

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Here's a point for you, then:

Why must you force your beliefs onto communities with tens of thousands of people, many of whom don't agree with you? The status quo is that kbin.social federates with basically everywhere, as it should since it's a general-purpose flagship instance. Why do you want to change the status quo because of your personal beliefs?

Instead of trying to force Kbin.social to change, maybe you should host your own instance where you can block Meta and everywhere that federates with it. Or you can join a Kbin instance that already does so: https://kglitch.social/

But there should still be places that allow for federation if that's what they desire. That's how Kbin.social is currently set up. I am defending the current status quo, and you are trying to argue for changing it. There are instances that already agree with you; you don't need to stay here and fight everyone who disagrees.

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no more status quo. Facebook stepping into the fediverse has changed it. The only question is in what manner do we want it to change.

The admins of kbin.social have not come out in favor or against. I am trying to persuade them. If they choose to federate, then yes I'll probably find a new instance.

[–] EnglishMobster@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I am saying we should maintain the status quo. Rather than trying to persuade, you should go somewhere that already guarantees you get what you want.

[–] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

You don't get it. The status quo is gone. It's not an option. The options now are defederate Threads, or be consumed by it. You've admitted so yourself. The old fediverse won't be happening.