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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Woah hold the phone, you're telling me there's a way to build society OTHER than by explicitly rewarding greed and exploitation‽

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is a similar story in Saudi Arabia and many Arab countries. The oil and gas is nationally owned, and the revenues are being used to finance a massive welfare state as well as the transition away from fossil fuels.

[–] CohortCzort@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think saudi Arabia moving away from fossil fuels isnt really true considering their (ODSP) is a plan to hook the 3rd world on said fossil fuels.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Developing countries need cheap energy

[–] CohortCzort@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But if we were really serious about sustainability, wouldnt it be better to not get more of the world hooked and fossil fuels in that way.

Which is not me saying everyone should be driving EVs, because fuck cars.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Oil isn't just used for cars. A lot of countries use diesel trains on routes where electrification isn't feasible for various reasons. Here's a modern diesel train https://youtu.be/tFoljwX6o90

[–] wowbagger_@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, solar and wind? Both cheaper than fossil fuels at this point.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Then no one will buy the oil Saudi Arabia is selling if that's true