My old person trait is that I think 'ghosting' is completely unacceptable and you owe the other person a face-to-face conversation.
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My old person trait is thinking a family should be able to live in a house if one member has a stable job (maybe two people if both are at minimum wage).
Only one generation got to do that though. The post war generation with strong unions. Before that, but like now, unless you were rich, every damn person in the family worked, including the kids and if you were lucky by the end of your 70 hour work week you had enough to pay the rent and feed everyone.
We are evolving. Just backwards!
Can I talk to you about our Lords and Saviors: Devo? ~workin' in a coal mine going down down...~
You can, as long as that one member makes $200k+. It's your fault you're poor, weirdo
You can also live in a lower cost of living area and accomplish it.
Except the work availability doesn't exist in low cost of living areas so you just trade monetary cost with time and accessibility cost.
You never heard of remote work eh? There are tons of jobs you can do from anywhere that you have reliable internet.
Also, there are other jobs that pay well enough to live comfortably in many areas close to rural areas. It's quite simple to just drive a few miles to town for a work commute.
You could not persuade me to move into a city / metro area for double my current salary. Nothing beats having your own home and land for a price that you can easily afford.
The problem here is menial work. Some people need to build houses or produce furniture or repair cars etc. And that is often not well paid, destroys you physically, and you need to live where the work is or you need to pay for a car and extra insurance and extra taxes etc. etc. And then people do a full time job with actual societal merit, working in a field they want to work, but it's not worth doing so. And that can't stay this way. There is no remote job as a stone mason, Raoul. Not everyone can do that.
Yes, there is menial work available in many areas. Even if you live in a rural area, as millions of Americans currently do, who make a living and own homes.
The magical secret is CARS - you can get a car, and drive it to the job. Jobs definitely exist outside of big city metro areas, even if you don't believe in them.
They increase your costs and cut back on your effective income. That's the fucking point.
Not when they allow you to live in a low cost of living area and make a good income. I get to keep more of my income because my bills are low.
Having a car grants a human being a much greater amount of personal freedom, because you can simply get in it and drive to anywhere the roads lead. One of those benefits is being able to go to work and bring home the bacon.
Ahh you're under the false assumption that low income areas have those facilities to accommodate remote work and supply ample employment to the entire area, I'm glad we were able to identify the gap in your comprehension.
You really don't seem to be grasping how remote work works at all. All you need is a room indoors (unless the weather is good) and a computer with Internet access.
But if you have no skills for those jobs, you can work other jobs in person, by commuting to nearby towns. This is nothing new, and if you didn't realize this, it has been occurring for quite a number of years already. In my rural area, I could drive around and see many nice valuable homes that people have obtained by having been gainfully employed. It's the reality of millions of rural American already. We get to live nice comfy lives in affordable living conditions because we don't buy into the big city bullshit lifestyles.
Someone doesn't understand why low income areas are low income, while using examples of high income earners living in low income areas. Your determination to make a point in spite of your ignorance is amusing, it's like you're trying to pretend poor people don't exist, kind of pathetic really.
No, it's you who doesn't understand what the real world looks like. I've lived years and years in poverty, with those poor people you're talking about.
You're ignorant of the whole world that exists outside of overpriced high population areas.
I am those poor people you fucking moron. Stop assuming your ignorance as as good as other people's knowledge.
Congrats, dipshit. You get a block for being an asshole.
Necessities for children should be provided or paid for by government