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The link goes to this users Mastodon post on the subject. I'm going to copy part of the text of his post without having to post the Threads post they were shown. Click through if you want to see for yourself, avoid if such things are upsetting to you.

"This was a post promoted to me from within Instagram to try and get me to use threads. Ill say that again: this is the promotional content shown to non-threads users as an inducement to join threads."

If you do click through to the Mastodon thread, you'll see several other people confirming they've seen the same or similar posts promoting Threads.

I've said the same thing in comments to other Threads related posts in this community but I'm going to say it again; didn't we create and use fediverse software like Mastodon, Lemmy, PixelFed etc in large part to escape the constant hate-baiting and algorithmic manipulation of companies like Meta? Why are so many in the fediverse prepared to throw their fellow fediverse users under the bus by exposing them to a company and a set of users who not only say these things and not only allow them to be said but actually use them as a promotional tool to encourage more people onto Threads?

If Threads was a fediverse instance, it would've been defederated from by just about everyone by now. Why are some people bending over backwards to give Meta a free pass?

'Wait and see' I hear people say. I can already see.

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[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 9 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I’m currently looking for a new Mastodon home that goes a step further than the Fedipact. I’m looking for an instance that not only refuses to federate with Facebook themselves, but also blocks any other fediverse instance that does allow Facebook’s content. Any suggestions?

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 months ago

Not a clue. I totally sympathise with your feelings on the matter but I've not heard of an instance offering that.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Honesty that's a bad idea, we don't need to fragment instances until federation stops working to defeat threads

[–] spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What makes you think that a for profit company like Meta has any altruistic or not-profit-driven reason to join the fediverse? There is zero chance that them federating doesn’t hurt the fediverse and benefit them. They wouldn’t be doing it otherwise.

[–] sour@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

is not worth blocking instances that arent threads

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

Exactly. That kind of infighting is gonna wreak us. People are too quick to fediblock and it makes it hard to use many instances

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

The reason is called the Digital Markets Act.

[–] humancrayon@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

socel.net is one i've been a part of since I joined. Its mainly art and design focused. Bonus #1: It has Neil Gaiman and Matthew Schofield (former art director for The Simpsons). Bonus #2: I believe the owner's response when they pledged to block anything with facebook was "Get fucked Zuck."

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 2 points 10 months ago

Definitely checking them out. Thanks!

[–] ShittyKopper@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago

I'm not entirely sure if such an instance exists, but just letting you know that in case you can't find any, a reasonable compromise would be to join an instance that's enforcing authorized fetch (and is blocking threads)

this will make it harder for facebook to read your data through federation alone (i.e. even if a post of yours get boosted by someone with followers from threads, it won't "leak" there)

there are ways to bypass this of course but if facebook is found to do something of that sort they would out themselves as actively malicious which would definitely get a reaction even from the "wait and see" crew

[–] __@fedia.io 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can you expound on 'block'? IIRC, Jerry blocks threads proactively on his microblog instances, and the user can undo that. Is that what you're looking for, or something further?

[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 1 points 10 months ago

I’m looking for a Mastodon instance that both blocks Facebook and blocks any other instance that does federate with Facebook.

[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] CaptObvious@literature.cafe 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 months ago

Uhhhh well maybe you're privvy to some insider information you'd like to share? Because they've announced no such intention.