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[–] muhyb@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I wonder what is the origin of this word, since all sound similar. Hence the F-P transition.

[–] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The origin seems to be Persian (from where the plant comes actually as many other fruits) from which the word entered as a loan to ancient Greek (πιστάκιον) and later Latin (pistācium).

Interestingly enough from middle Persian "pstk'" the initial sound became aspirated (like the "Farsi" name itself for the modern language from Middle Persian "Pārsīk").

And by Turkish/Ottoman domination the f- variant spread in the Middle East.

[–] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 4 points 10 months ago

A lot of fruits, trees and nuts come from Persia... the name of the "peach" in some European languages is closely related to it, for example English "peach" from old French "pesche" is a contraction of medieval latin "persica", cfr Romanian "piersică", Italian "pesca" (and in some Italian dialects it's called "persica"/"persego") and similar variations.

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

Relevant detail: Ottoman Turkish ⟨فستق‎⟩ fıstık borrowed it from Arabic ⟨فُسْتُق‎⟩ fustuq, that borrowed it from Middle Persian - the same variety as Greek and then Latin did. So odds are that the f-variation was caused by Arabic rendering a foreign [p] as [f], and probably predates Persian itself internally undergoing a p→f shift. Source.

[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

The root word is Persian. Middle Persian to be exact. pistakē.

Pistachios are native to Iran, parts of Afghanistan, and a spattering of other middle eastern countries.

Commercial production mostly came out of Iran until the 1970s, when changes to the US tax code made growing for production favorable, then the Iranian Revolution hit and US production took off.