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I would like to know if I can feel safe here, or if I should pack it up and start looking elsewhere sooner rather than later.

If the kbin staff have already made there intentions clear, please let me know.

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[–] masterspace@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (10 children)

The only thing naiive is the people in here thinking that defederating from Meta accomplishes anything whatsoever.

Oh boo hoo, meta's instance is shinier than ours, doesn't that mean users will leave? Yeah, look around, they already will and are leaving for Meta's platforms, they have more users on Threads in 24hrs than the Fediverse has had in it's entire life.

Nothing about defederating changes that.

[–] duringoverflow@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (8 children)

the defederation has nothing to do with "reducing meta's number". The reason to defederate is so you're not playing their game with their own rules. Fediverse will gain absolutely nothing by playing meta's game.

[–] masterspace@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Everyone keeps talking in analogies like "playing their game" because if you said "we gain nothing by getting a ton of free content from Threads users" it would sound ridiculous.

[–] duringoverflow@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i'm not here for the ton of content that meta will produce. If I wanted this content I would had been there in the first place. It looks like somebody else is in the wrong place and is dreaming of a fediverse full of brands trying to promote their products and the influencers pretending they are real life advertisements.

its funny that you measure value by that metric.

[–] masterspace@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No, I'm just not willfully blind to the fact that social networks are only valuable when people use them. Reddit wasn't great because it was a niche forum with a handful of decentralized tech enthusiasts, Reddit was great because it was a big non-gatekeeping umbrella that welcomed everyone.

[–] Ragnell@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Here's the thing. No matter what the Supreme Court says, a corporation is NOT a person.

Facebook/Meta can't be welcomed, it is a construct without feeling. It is a massive profit-driven engine with no sense of fairness or ethics.

Anyone who uses Facebook can be welcomed, provided they make accounts and instances. But to allow a profit-driven engine like Meta to run an instance? That's not a good idea.

[–] duringoverflow@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

sure. But reddit was very far from what FB and instagram are. The culture that FB and/or instagram bring with them, is something that if I liked, I would had been there already

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