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Substack says it will not remove or demonetize Nazi content (www.theverge.com)
submitted 10 months ago by breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca to c/technology@lemmy.world
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More than 200 Substack authors asked the platform to explain why it’s “platforming and monetizing Nazis,” and now they have an answer straight from co-founder Hamish McKenzie:

I just want to make it clear that we don’t like Nazis either—we wish no-one held those views. But some people do hold those and other extreme views. Given that, we don’t think that censorship (including through demonetizing publications) makes the problem go away—in fact, it makes it worse.

While McKenzie offers no evidence to back these ideas, this tracks with the company’s previous stance on taking a hands-off approach to moderation. In April, Substack CEO Chris Best appeared on the Decoder podcast and refused to answer moderation questions. “We’re not going to get into specific ‘would you or won’t you’ content moderation questions” over the issue of overt racism being published on the platform, Best said. McKenzie followed up later with a similar statement to the one today, saying “we don’t like or condone bigotry in any form.”

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[–] ABC123itsEASY@lemmy.world 64 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Tolerance is a social contract not a right. If you are tolerant, you earn tolerance for yourself. If you are intolerant, you don't deserve tolerance yourself. It's really not that complicated imo. I don't feel the need to be tolerant of racist, bigoted people.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Tolerance is a social contract not a right. If you are tolerant, you earn tolerance for yourself. If you are intolerant, you don't deserve tolerance yourself.

I've never heard it said that way. This is a fantastic way to put it.

[–] Zengen@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You dont. You just have to be tolerant of their existence because theirr existance is protected by right and law. If you punch a Nazi your still getting charged with assault and battery. If you kill a racist your still going to jail. We dont illegalize views and ideas in america.

[–] Strykker@programming.dev 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No you don't have to tolerate their existence.

We fought a war against Nazis for a fucking reason.

Their ideals are shut and anyone who pushes them is worth less than the air they breath and the dirt they shit in.

[–] Zengen@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The first amendment says you do in fact have to tolerate them sir. You may not commit acts of violence against them for their speech or you get put in prison. Thats the way it is.

[–] Strykker@programming.dev 1 points 8 months ago

The first amendment applies to the government's actions. Not personal actions.

Hate speech is not a protected class so you can be refused service for it at any business,