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[โ€“] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My point was that you said there wasn't any communism in those countries, not about the statement of the Ukrainian brothers, which seemed wrong since they have pretty big parties considering the state of affairs in other places. I'm not a Westerner and I have a Belorussian friend with whom I talk about the political situation of the region. I never claimed those countries are still communists.

[โ€“] harcesz@szmer.info 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Then ask them about the average age of these party members and their actual influence on social life and state policy. Like what actual policies they got through. In reality these parties are walking corpses of state sanctioned mostly ruled by yesteryear's apparatchiks.
I've been living under one roof with Belarusians and Russians for over 10 years in a country bordering both, but love hearing explanations of what I'm seeing from such very well informed sources like your comments.

Also love your play with semantics, but could just as well claim there's anarchism in this countries, since there are active anarchist groups. Or they are antifascist states, since there's armed antifa militants in them, as that was the only way not to get killed by kremlin-aligned neonazi groups.

I'm not a statist (neither an anarchist), but these people you are trying to defend are traitors of their people, their communities, and their class. Russian mafia oligarchy is not better than the one thats being fought against in Ukraine by it's social movements. Its worse, for it's imperialism even if you imagine it has Soviet rather than it's true Tzarist sources.