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[–] arcticpiecitylights@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the point at which the left-wing in France needs to step the fuck up and convince the centrists that the best way to beat the Nazis is not to vote for Diet Nazi.

[–] CrimsonOnoscopy@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There needs to be an alternative to both Macron and Le Pen. I would love to see Macron forced to retire, though considering his authoritarian impulses, it seems unlikely without a vote of misconfidence from parliament.

Note that I'm not super familiar with French political process, so I'm not totally sure how that'd need to play out.

[–] gaael@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Vote of misconfidence only gets rid of the government (PM and the other ministers), the president stays in place. Macron already theatened the parliament of dissolution (meaning everyone goes home and we do a parliament election) in case of succesful vite of misconfidence. It doesn't make it impossible but it makes it less likely.

[–] CrimsonOnoscopy@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds pretty authoritarian if you ask me

[–] gaael@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. Our current constitution was designed by De Gaulle, who was military and not too big on parliament power. From the official presidential website "Élysée" (name of the palace where presidential powet resides in France) : While it is based on the Constitution of 1946, the 1958 Constitution is different, as its purpose was to strengthen executive power and stabilize the government, making it more difficult for the Assembly to overthrow.

[–] CrimsonOnoscopy@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Sounds like it's time to destabilize the government and overthrow the presidency.

Maybe the Assembly can't do it, but the people sure could.

[–] John_Coomsumer@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I think its a bit more reasonable to say that "the centrists in France need to step the fuck up and realize that the left is a superior option to Diet Nazi"