As you've probably heard, Threads (a fairly new social network from Facebook's parent company Meta) is testing integration with the fediverse. Depending on how you look at it, it's a great opportunity, a huge threat, or both!
Back in May and June, when Threads' first announced their plans, there were quite a few polls on Mastodon about people's reactions, most showing opinions split roughly equally. How do people feel today?
I don't like meta as a company.
But I don't want to exclude a bunch of people just because they decided to use a server owned by meta. It's not like the server is a community dedicated to hurting people or promoting hate speech or something, and I don't want to punish people just because they're not savvy enough to understand the problems with meta. Let them federate and just don't follow any of them if you're not interested in any of them.
Defederating isn't going to benefit us or hurt meta, it's just gonna hurt the people who use threads.
I do.
You make the fediverse a worse place, if your default is to arbitrarily exclude and gatekeep against people unlike you, as it seems to be.
The people on Tumblr are entirely unlike me … but I have no issues federating with Tumblr.
You might want to consider why this is the case.
I'd say you may want to consider why this is the case. If you're OK federating tumblr (which I agree with), but not ok federating threads, even if defederating threads won't impact Meta at all and only negatively affects thread users - that seems pretty hypocritical and unnecessarily spiteful towards normies.
It's not normies I'm spiteful toward. It's MOTHERFUCKING META. The fact that the normies are going and supporting a known abuser with almost two decades' worth of fucking everything up is a "them" problem, not a "me" problem.
And once again I repeat: Defederating won't hurt meta. They can likely already harvest all the user data they would get from federation.
So you're senselessly taking your take against meta out on normies.
Dude, go to fucking Meta if you want to talk to fucking Meta's ragebait monkeys. The "normies" as you put it are welcome in the fediverse as far as I'm concerned, just not fucking META. Nothing but sloth is preventing the "normies" from getting into the fediverse.
Now go fuck off and troll elsewhere.
So are they normies or are they ragebait monkeys?
Explain to me how defederating threads isn't just impotently screaming into the void, because I've explained how it is and all you've done is have a tantrum in response. Maybe I'm wrong, but you've yet to even make an argument about the benefits of defederating.
In the end, this is the magic of the fediverse: we can both appeal to our admins about what we want, and then move to instances that have what we want. You tell me to move to threads, and I tell you to go to an instance that doesn't federate with anyone.
Now fuck off and express your impotent rage somewhere else.
Your word choice is just bizarre. Nobody would be excluded, they'd only have to make a profile on a different, normal server. And nobody would be "hurt" by not having access to Lemmy's memes about Linux and similar stuff.
Except that theoretically my "All" feed would still be full of garbage-tier content that people typically expect and post on Meta's services, and that userbase with its same mindset would eventually spill over into the communities that I do follow too.
Your response isn't self consistent.
If they make a profile on a normal server then your feed will be full of that same content you don't want. You're trying to exclude users, not meta itself.
Besides, you keep taking as though they're federating with Lemmy. They're not, they're federating with mastodon. Having mastodon posts show up automatically in your Lemmy feeds is unusual. Kbin, maybe.
...Good. they should move their happy asses to a normal, non-ghoul of a corporation run mastodon server, if it pains them so.
It is a mastodon server. A mastodon server run by meta. So how exactly is defederation going to benefit you?
Check my edit. And it benefits me by meta can eat a bag of dicks.
this wont cause meta to eat a bag of dicks. it doesn't actually hurt meta if you defederate with them. if they want to harvest data, they can already do that by standing up their own activitypub server and just subscribing to everything.
not everyone is as technically savvy as we are, or as aware of corporate politics as we are. as much as I think they should be, they arent, and so they use facebook and threads and twitter. I dont think we should exclude them on the sole basis of their ignorance in this particular area.
Most people don't care about that shit as much as we do. and if a social network doesn't have a good supply of normies, then it devolves into a circlejerk cesspit real quick.