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[–] Brkdncr@sh.itjust.works 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I tasked my VAR to find out what our pricing is going to look like in 2024 when our support agreement is up. They said VMware is a mess right now, do t expect a response soon. I need time to migrate and decide if I’m sticking with on-prem or moving god damn workloads to some cloud. This is a fucking shitshow. I fucking hate shareholders.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago

decide if I’m sticking with on-prem or moving god damn workloads to some cloud

Well, if you really want to burn through a lot of money really fast, and don't want to think of any other option at all, then yeah.

[–] Dran_Arcana@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

In my experience, Citrix offers a pretty viable alternative with xen if you want to stay on-prem

[–] Brkdncr@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

Can you name one peer that manages Citrix hypervisor?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Move to Citrix. You can even use their cloud management system to manage your on prem infrastructure. So that's an easy first workload to shift.

[–] misanthropy@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Citrix is garbage, I work with it daily

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Maybe you're bigger than us? I run 80k virtual desktops and it's not bad. Yes, their workspace client is fiddly as hell, and the VDA upgrade is hard, but the platform itself is solid.

[–] misanthropy@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

It's fiddly as hell and you need to be a wizard to actually fully know your way around it. There's so many ways to skin the cat--better hope things are documented. Their support is also beyond worthless for anything beyond buying more time with your boss for you to troubleshoot. I've put in a few tickets for odd issues, never had them resolve a single one. Half the time the client software updates fix one thing but break another two.

I much prefer a VMware horizon linked clone setup for end user VDIs, issues are usually confined to one user when they happen with those in my experience. And I can just put them on a spare, then rebuild their VM with two or three clicks to cut down on troubleshooting.

[–] misanthropy@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Just curious--where are you hosting your vms? We have a handful that use azure, but most are running on prem esxi. I'm biased because I came in to nothing being documented

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

On prem. We haven't done cloud yet.

[–] misanthropy@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

My most trouble free environments are the azure ones. Servers spin up or down based on user count. It's not cheap though.

Azure backups are the shit. Need to roll back to yesterday to pull a copy of a file? Log onto azure, go to backup section. Then you download an executable and get a key. Run it on your file server, and it mounts a copy of the disk as it was at backup time. So nice and easy.

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Good god what a disaster of a company. They treat their customers as over glorified testers.