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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fractional measurements are better than decimal measurements for anything where the level of precision is important.

Decimal measurements can only increase our decrease in precision by a factor of 10.

For example if your precision is accurate to 1/4 of a unit, you can represent that with fractions no problem.

What is that in decimal? "0.25" implies precision to the hundredth of a unit.

What if your measurement is half a unit, but it's precise to 1/64 of a unit? Just don't reduce the fractions. "32/64ths" is more precise than .5.

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I don't think there's anything better or worse with using fractions versus decimal. Numbers are numbers.. but your example just shows you have a β€’preferenceβ€’ for one method over the other. Not that either is subjectively better.

Your last example is literally exactly the same precision. Did you struggle with "significant figures" in school.. lots of people raised in American schools do.

[–] HexBee@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't quite think you got his point since they are not literally the same. 32/64 implies an accuracy of 1/64th or .01563. 0.5 implies an accuracy of 0.05 or half of the increment of measurement (0.1 in this case).

I don't agree however that fractions are more accurate since it is arbitrary. For instance 0.5000 is much more accurate than 32/64 or 1/64.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's not that precision can't be arbitrarily recorded higher in fraction, it's that precision can't be recorded precisely. Decimal is essentially fractional that's written differently and ignoring every fraction that isn't a power of 10.

How can a measurement 3/4 that's precise to 1/4 unit be recorded in decimal using significant figures? The most-correct answer would be 1. "0.8" or "0.75" suggest a precision of 1/10th and 1/100th, respectively, and sig figs are all about eliminating spurious precision.

If you have 2 measurement devices, and one is 5 times more precise than the other, decimal doesn't show it because it can only increase precision by powers of 10.

In the case of 1/64th above, if you just divide it out it shows a false precision of 1/100,000.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

0.75 +- .25 is that what you mean? If so here you go, that's how any statician would do.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's not a number - that's a sentence that takes up 3 times as many characters as 3/8.

3/8 is more efficient.

[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Sure dude

Now do 0.75 +- 0.05 with a fraction

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago

Significant figures is what I'm talking about. The entire point of them is to prevent spurious precision. How do you record a measurement of 3/4 precise to 1/4 using sig figs?

You can't do .75 because that's implying a precision 25 times greater than the measurement.

You can't do .8 because that's implying a precision that's still 2.5 times more precise than the measurement.

So it's 1.