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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Or sold with a licensed dealer present and require that it gets properly registered.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

With a background check, and a waiting period.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How about mandatory gun safety training every time you buy one?

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago
[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Oooooh....that's even better.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you get caught with a gun that hasn’t been transferred to you legally, you BOTH go to jail. If it was used in a crime, you both are punished equally for the crime. 

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Cool, so you plan on enforcing registration for all firearms in civilian hands?

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

All firearms should be registered. I can’t see a situation where it would be unnecessary. The money used for registration can be given to the innocent victims of gun violence.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So you want people to pay to register their firearms? And registration always leads to confiscation... Canada just pulled that trick.

[–] MonsterHighStan@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, if they want the privilege of owning a gun they should pay for registration as well. We do the same for cars and those are arguably actually required for a lot of people to work and live.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

You can buy a car at any age, without registration or a license or insurance, you can transport it across state lines with no issues...and then drive it on private property with no restrictions. The car analogy is a terrible one

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're kidding right?

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-safety-canada/news/2022/05/government-of-canada-implements-new-rules-to-better-regulate-non-restricted-firearms.html

This was pretty big news there, it's a registery, ban and confiscation is happening now. NZ did the same shit. Registration and then confiscation.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

This is the registration part. What I’m saying is: show me when they confiscated registered firearms from people.

Please don’t reply with nonsense that you didn’t read, or that doesn’t ACTUALLY show your “fear” happening in reality.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The same way you enforce people not murdering.

By jailing the people who don't adhere to the law.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

I man....so how's that going for all the tiktok kids in gangs in the inner cities showing off their giggle switched Glocks....and no one does a damn thing...you live in lala land or in an ivory tower so bright no one can look directly at it.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

Actually with the new proposals to remove firearms from anyone with any kind of criminal background or mental health disorder, and the law being amended to allow this, there are ways to effectively stop people from having firearms. It's simple humanitarian guidelines that need to be enacted. Only a churlish dolt would refuse to see the common sense of keeping guns out of the hands of men and boys.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Cool, how do you plan to enforce it... cause we all know that drugs being illegal...no one sells those on the black market...

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Since you asked me this twice, I will not answer it again. But I will touch on the black market part, no one can enforce the black market and that’s why it’s called the black market. but just because the black market exists doesn’t mean legal market shouldn’t. if you think a firearm shouldn’t have to be registered legally because it’s possible to get it illegally, then you are missing the whole point of laws and civilization, and I’m not really sure why you’re here. 

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Registration is a tool for oppressing minorities. It's racist, and thinking registration is going to magically stop gang violence is hilariously naive.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Not sure I said anything about gang violence. But clearly you’re a white male if you think a simple gun registration is racist. Is car registration racist? Don’t get me started on gun insurance.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm actually not, nice try though. But gun laws have always heavily been used as oppression tools towards minorities. The reason I pointed out gang violence, is because that's where 85% of our gun homicides come from.

Just an FYI...the car and gun comparison is silly. You can buy a car with no BG check, at any age, for cash, transport it across state lines, not register it or have insurance and drive it on private property at any age.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

85% is pretty specific and you clearly have a source. Let’s see it.