I'm starting to find that HUDs in games clutter the screen and take away from being fully immersed in the game. I like games that force you to pay attention to what's going on in the game and not numbers/markers on the edges of the display. What are some of your favorite games to play with no HUD? Here are a few of mine:

Astroneer - this game has tool tips on screen but that's about it. There isn't even an inventory, all objects are interactive and you can physically place them on your backpack.

Battlefield 1 - super gritty and immersive, but playing without a HUD really puts you at a disadvantage online.

Red Dead Redemption 2 - I liked that you could hide the HUD, but the mini-map was a tap on the d-pad away if you get lost. It was a super immersive experience!

Grand Theft Auto 5 - maybe not designed to be played without the HUD, once you get used to the layout of the city this becomes a lot easier, and you focus more on landmarks to navigate and again this really increased immersion. Sometimes finding things in missions wasn't obvious and required consulting the map but otherwise this was enjoyable.

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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Gotta be honest here.

Immersion has no meaning to me and I don't understand the obsession.

[–] leave_it_blank@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I never forgot the woman who asked me to look for her husband, I found him, dead, killed by bandits. She was in tears, saying life would never be the same.

Five minutes later I sold her stuff, and she was like "Nice weather today, isn't it?".

That killed every immersion at that moment.

It was Skyrim. It has fantastic moments, but there are lots of moments that kill every immersion it built up on a grand scale.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

See stuff like that just makes me laugh though.

Like I kinda get what you mean but stuff like physics glitches and weird moments like your described just make me laugh.

Even in a serious situation like a grand epic battle the sight of a deceased character model slowly vibrating before launching into the cosmos is hilarious to me.

Or in your case a widow who's heartbroken and sobbing then the cutscene ends and she's just "hi how can I help you today?" in a cheerful tone and I just burst out laughing

[–] PolishAndrew@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Immersion is one aspect, but I also find that artists put so much work into creating great visuals, it almost feels like I'm ignoring the great things to look at by chasing dots on a map. I really just want experiences that help me focus more on the world in front of me.

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Immersion is a bit overused and misunderstood.

It maybe works better as "suspension of disbelief", like in other fiction. You sustain it and you can go very abstract. You break it and things get weird.

[–] CarlsIII@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

This makes more sense to me than the “I believe I’m actually in the game world” definition I’ve been given before

[–] smeg@feddit.uk 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People get immersed in different ways. Some people get involved in the story, putting themselves in the character's shoes and imagining it's a real world. Some people get lost in the gameplay, enjoying the mechanics and focusing entirely on completing the challenge. For some people it's TV, film, books, or just chatting at the pub and losing track of time. I'm sure you get immersed in something!

[–] CarlsIII@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I feel like what you’re talking about is something more like “deep involvement”

[–] leave_it_blank@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

That's a good definition of being immersed.

[–] kratoz29@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

I'm on your side a bit, I mean, I hate getting lost, for me that ain't immersion, having a HUD or being able to look beyond your usual sight scope is awesome and one of the best features of the videogames which are an escape of our mostly boring life.

With that being said, the other day I was playing BOTW (with HUD) in handheld mode in pitch dark (late night) with my headphones put on and I felt totally immersed more than when I play on my 50 inch TV, IDK, it just helps you to isolate in Hyrule that way I think.

[–] CarlsIII@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I don’t think it’d be possible to trick me into thinking I’m not playing a video game. You can have 0 UI, and I’ll still know I’m looking at a screen and pushing buttons. Maybe way off in the future when VR has gotten a lot better, sure, probably.

[–] bridge_too_close@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think it's less about being "tricked" into believing you aren't actually playing a game, and more along the lines of having the mindset that you are actually playing as your character. It's more like the difference between performing tasks, going from A to B, and checking boxes on a list, versus actually feeling like you're going on an adventure.

[–] CarlsIII@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That sounds like the same thing. If I actually believe I am actually the character, I have been tricked.

[–] bridge_too_close@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I didn't say anything about actually believing you are the character. Immersion doesn't have anything to do with deception and is more about being engrossed or deeply involved with something. You can be immersed in other things too, like a tv show, book, or tabletop game.

[–] CarlsIII@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Sorry, when you said “have the mindset that you are the character”, that came across to me as believing you are the character. Also, I have been told in the past by people who care about immersion that that is what immersion is, so I’m still trying to grasp what it actually is.

I’m also struggling to see having a UI hurts immersion, especially since, as you say, reading a book is immersion, and a book is all text. I’m wondering, also, if maybe different people mean different things when they talk about immersion.

[–] bridge_too_close@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

What is or isn't immersive is subjective, for sure. As far as a UI goes, some people may think that having a UI with too many elements or taking up too much space can detract from actually experiencing the game and its environments.

[–] pgetsos@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

VR is decent enough that you can get lost in the game as is. Even if momentarily, like trying to kick the ball while playing ping pong and it falls near you