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All messages are end to end encrypted. Also you don't need an Apple account and it connects directly to Apple servers.

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[–] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

For sure very interesting! And its open source and you can run it in your computer if you have the knowledge.

[–] will_a113@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

Yup, the PyPush python-based proof-of-concept can run pretty much anywhere there's python.

[–] minishoemaze@beehaw.org 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I'm aware regular Beeper can be self-hosted, but Beeper Mini can too? Is there any more information on this or is that the "if you have the knowledge" part?

[–] biscuitswalrus@aussie.zone 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The mini version doesn't need hosting, it doesn't have a proxy middle man. A 16yo kid reverse engineered the protocol and then got contracted by beeper to implement it as beeper mini. It's a client directly connecting to apple like imessage native.

Will it break? I'd argue if the cost of breaking it in engineer time is worth doing to Apple, yes. All they'd have to do is roll their own crypto and reverse engineering that might be impossible. Probably easier ways to break it but then maybe it turns into a cat and mouse game.

Legally it's hard to say if it's OK too, the end user is likely fine, but the developer especially being contacted may not be since to reverse engineer it could be breaking terms of service or licensing clauses though I'm not really sure what kind of damages could be claimed. To reverse engineer they had to use the original on jailbroken iphones to go through the engineering discovery.

Anyway the point is, it's not going through beeper or anywhere other than Apple. So there's no component to host. It's different to beeper.

[–] LinuxSBC@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that breaking it will also break a lot of Apple devices.

[–] biscuitswalrus@aussie.zone 2 points 11 months ago

Hmm you could be right. Keeping old protocols running for legacy compatibility reasons could in this case keep the solution working for some time.

[–] Bene7rddso@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

what kind of damages could be claimed.

According to Apple users, the color of their bubble has a lot of value

[–] will_a113@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

I don't know about the app itself, but the blog article links to the PyPush python-based proof-of-concept, which you can run pretty much anywhere.