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[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So basically all Bluetooth devices are affected? This is huge news.

[–] akrot@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's also crazy how there is this push from all OEM to remove headphone jack and force consumers to use wireless earphones, further making the attack surface much wider.

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Even now I think we should've added a second USB Port if we were going to remove the headphone jack.

[–] runefehay@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

A second USB port or headphone jack adds $1(US) to the manufacturing cost, if even that. Can't cut into the corporation's massive profits by even a little. Nope, can't have that.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if it would still be an issue had Bluetooth won the wireless network stack war.

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wireless Network Stack War? Do you mind enlightening me? I've never heard of such a thing.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz -4 points 11 months ago (5 children)

It came down to Wi-Fi and Bluetooth to be the wireless network standard. For a hot minute it wasn't clear who would come out the winner.

I can't find shit about it though. It was around 2000ish.

[–] GrayBoltWolf@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You’re probably thinking about homerf, which was the competitor to WiFi. I don’t think Bluetooth was ever marketed as an alternative to WiFi.

[–] db2@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 months ago

It could be a Mandela effect thing. 🤷

[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 11 months ago

not even close. They were always intended for different purposes. They never were in competition

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Bluetooth has it's own stack. Wifi typically runs tcpip. Your post doesn't even make sense because both wifi and Bluetooth coexist today so clearly there was no "winner".

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

You aren't crazy. I remember this being posited as a wifi alternative too. They claimed you could have a Bluetooth signal that wouldn't reach beyond the walls of your home, preventing outside people (neighbors etc) from piggybacking on your network even if they had a password or the network was open because of the short range. And that tech does sort of exist today. A lot of mesh wifi routers use Bluetooth to connect to each other and provide that wifi to you in whatever part of your home you happen to be in. IOT devices do this as well. I believe this was called a piconet. But it never caught on, and I think it was more a theoretical idea than an actual real push.

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 1 points 11 months ago

Oh wow, I'm glad Bluetooth lost given that it's vastly inferior. I mean we're even starting to see wifi headphones now, soon Bluetooth will be relegated to legacy devices.