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[–] julianschmulian@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 11 months ago (3 children)

you can‘t have peanuts in school?

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's because all the freedom they have.

But seriously, they have some crazy allergies there. No idea why, probably because of all the artificial food and contamination in general. It's just not a very healthy place to live.

[–] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you know if they've tried..... shooting the allergies?

[–] MustrumR@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

Can't we just nuke the allergies?

[–] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you're in Europe, we'll I've got news for you, 2/3rds of European schools have at least one child with an anaphylactic peanut allergy. So peanut allergies are not just from excess freedom it would seem.

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20200528005252/en/Largest-European-Quantitative-Study-on-Peanut-Allergy-Confirms-Significant-Need-Burden-and-Psychosocial-Impact-of-Peanut-Allergy-on-Allergic-Individuals-and-their-Caregivers

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Cool, why peanuts are not banned in European schools then?

[–] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

/shrug

I think it's mostly people in the thread are over exaggerating how common it actually is to ban them for a humorous effect. Maybe overly litigious society, schools don't want to be sued because some dumb bully throws a peanut at a kid who can die from it. Peanut bans are becoming a thing in Europe though. A quick googling will show that. I found a proposal in European parliament. Here's the BBC talking about banning them on all public transport:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-41017657

That seems a bit aggressive to me.

But all that aside, the increasing allergies across the industrialized world is really interesting though, and not a United States specific thing. A lot probably has to do with eradication of parasites. Much of the immune system parts responsible for allergies don't have any role in response to bacteria or virus, but are intended to fight off parasites. And this is a gross over simplification, but the basics are without any parasites to fight off (since they've been eradicated in the industrialized world) it gets dysregulated and starts reacting to benign targets.

[–] SGG@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Some schools will be over zealous and ban them.

Other schools can have kids with such severe allergic reactions that it's the simplest option to ban them. This is mainly primary schools. I'm not saying if that's right or wrong, there's too many variables.

Kids can't be expected to perfectly manage their health problems, that's why at most schools yes the kids may have an EpiPen, but the school is also generally required to have one for each kid with a registered allergy.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I believe my daughter's school just had a 'no peanuts' table in the lunchroom.

[–] SGG@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

That's awesome if it works. But I had to provide IT support at a school once that had to specifically tell even contractors to please not being anything with peanuts onto the school grounds. They had a kid with a severe peanut allergy and a habit of licking everything (behavioural "quirk" to put in nicely, I had literally been licked on the elbow).

Admittedly that was only once in almost 20 years of doing IT support in schools. But I am more than happy to sacrifice some personal liberty in that kind of situation.

[–] Kase@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Ironically, when I was in middle school it was a common joke to lick people's elbows when they weren't paying attention. The joke was that they might not notice it at first, since elbows supposedly had few nerve endings.

It was about as common as untying people's shoe laces, for a while. Meaning: very common.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I had literally been licked on the elbow

Sounds like the school doesn't know how to take care of any student... There should be exactly 0 cases where the IT support people for the school are interacting with individuals that are high needs like that.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe they had to go into a classroom to fix a problem.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Without a teacher/aid present to deal with the students?

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Maybe they had a dozen teachers arranged in a defensive line of scrimmage but this licker kid broke through, in a relentless rage fueled by the unquenchable need to slobber on that sweet sweet elbow.

[–] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That's what I'm saying... School isn't taking care of their students properly. Gotta get Eddie Hall in there to restrain him from such actions.

Seriously... I'd be worried about what that kid is doing to other kids if they can get away with doing that to staff....

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Is this like a new thing? I don’t remember in the 80s or 90s schools having any kind of such peanut policies. Yet everyone here is posting like this is completely normal.

Is there some kind of peanut allergy outbreak epidemic going on with children now? Should someone be investigating this?

Or 30 years ago, all the kids with peanut allergies were home schooled and kept hidden from society?

[–] stevestevesteve@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Most schools, you can have all the peanuts you like. Chances are pretty good that the lunches available in the cafeteria will be peanut -free, though