Bulletin boards, forums, blogs. The main difference to today was twofold:

For one there were no algorithms fighting to keep you online at any cost – at some point you were done with the internet for the day, as mind blowing as this may sound.

But more importantly: The old internet was very fractured, split into thousands of different communities, like small villages gathering around shared beliefs and interests.

These villages were separated from each other by digital rivers or mountains. These communities worked because they mirrored real life much more than social media:

Each village had its own culture and set of rules. Maybe one community was into rough humour and soft moderation, another had strict rules and banned easily.

If you didn’t play by the village rules,  you would be banned – or you could just go and move to another village that suited you better.

So instead of all of us gathering in one place, overwhelming our brains at a townsquare that in the end just leads to us going insane, one solution to achieve less social sorting may be extremely simple:

go back to smaller online communities.

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[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 54 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Isn't it kinda the opposite? A fediverse is not multiple separate isolated villages, it's a bunch of villages all bundled up together in one place within walking distance.

[–] exocortex@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

kinda. but compared to e. g. Twitter its much more splinteted. Twitter is more like one giant city. also your seeing mostly what Twitter decides. mastodon shows you what you subscribed to. things are less viral.

[–] Kaldo@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

You can put twitters feed to following only and it's kinda the same thing tbh. I don't think Mastodon did anything to fix the core issue from the video, you're still bombarded with opinions from people you don't have much in common with. Whether it's millions of people on twitter or thousands on Mastodon, it's still more than what our stupid brain is able it process IMHO.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

You're*

[–] kernelle@0d.gs 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I do interpret it as not having an exuberant userbase atm, many share the sentiment of lemmy feeling like early internet and this is probably why. But this means once it's large enough, the same might happen to the fediverse.

But the great thing about the fediverse is how you can create your own instance and do with it as you please, maybe allow partial federation so people can read but not interact, or an entirely sepperated federation. Create your own village but still be interconnected by a high speed train network.

[–] noobdoomguy8658@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I feel like it's unlikely to happen regardless of the userbase. Fediverse as a whole seems to have been built on different merits and it's curated by the large corporations, so they won't be coming here with their algorithms and ad-revenue and thirst for profits and engagement.

The biggest difference between Fediverse and the old-school internet websites, like forums and blogs and such, is that Fediverse is relatively easily intertwined; it's an ecosystem that consists of autonomous small-ish communities that get to choose whether and what they share. If you want, you can basically make one account, subscribe to as much shit from the Fediverse as you like, and have it all come to your curated feed (defederation happens, though) - or you can treat it all as separate platforms and have one account for each, with occasional guests hopping by (like you're with d.gs and I'm with feddit.de).

Even if there are platforms that later use the same protocols to try and get some profits, they'll most likely be out of everyone's memory much like Threads (remember that?) because it's just not the same as creating some kind of "everything platform" and have people walled off there to "engage" with rage-inducing content and have them (hopefully) generate ad revenue.

[–] kernelle@0d.gs 2 points 11 months ago

Thats's where OP's kurzgesagt video comes into play, they state that we as humans do not have the mental capacity to process the amount of information that is available to us. Social media hijacks this need for connection.

We as humans tend to seek out likeminded people, every kind of person is welcome here but the fact that we're all using the same platform connects us in a way. There comes a point in every social media where this interconnection fades away due to a growing userbase, because when a platform reaches this point users no longer feel that base connection and start interacting with people in a completely different, much more negative, way.

The OP video explains how engagement driven rage content is not the cause of that, but rather a result of this loss of interconnection.

I do agree/hope the fediverse has smaller chance of that happening, but statistics would probably predict a similar direction when this platform hits a critical mass.

[–] gila@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

The villages being meaningfully separate spaces is more pertinent than how far apart they are. I'm on the instance that I'm on because of communities it federates with I'm interested in participating in. I moved instances to achieve this.