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I'm not too tech savvy so I appreciate responses in layman's terms.

I have a rough concept of how NewPipe works, (correct me if I'm wrong though!) basically it's a scrapper so it somehow reads the information in YouTube, anonymously, and filters the ads for you.

What I'm interested in knowing is, how does this behaviour look like from YouTube's perspective. Can the platform "tell" that someone is accessing their content but not the ads that should go before and inbetween the videos? Do these views requested by NewPipe count towards the global amount of views a video has? Do content creators still get money from youtube ads with NewPipe views? Do they also get to see engagement data from views (such as which parts are skipped)? Etc etc.

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 21 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Right, I am back you numbercrunching crumbnunchers!

This is what I see when I go into Youtube Studio and look at the analytics tab:

Weirdly, the viewcount is completely different in the three highlighted areas, I don't really know what that means, but perhaps someone else can explain it?

Anyway, on to the video specific analytics:

Again, differing viewcounts, so it is probably just something I am missing... Here we see that a majority of watches comes from "Other YouTube features" and "External".

Let's see if we can see something more on the next pages:

Here it only shows 19 views, I wonder if that is completed views.... I clearly know way too little about YouTube to get a proper conslusion so far....

But let's keep going!

Ok, more "Other YouTube features" stats, but clicking on that give no further data, "External" however...

There we are my Lemmys! (Lemmings?)

From the links it looks like we can make a qualified guess about some of the mobile apps in use in this thread, interesting, but not that useful in this case...

The Geography tab either has not processed completely, or there is too little data to make a determination, it just shows a "Total" value, with no added data.

Same goes to the Cities tab, which makes sense...

There is not enough demographic data to graph the ages or genders of the viewers, makes sense....

The Date tab hold no interesting data.

None of all 19 viewers are subscribed to me, good, I only upload occasionally, some train videos, some minecraft/ut2004 videos, and other random crap...

On to device type!

Most of the 19 viewers, watched on a mobile phone, but I have no data about what kind, I thought the frontends might pretend to be a mobile app for the yt API, but there is not enought data to determine that.

Youtube Product tab, does not hold the key, it hold no usefull unformation in this case.

The Playback location tells me that all 19 views was done on the Youtube watch page, probably meaning directly on Youtube.

Operating Systems!

The majority of viewers watched on Android, then iOS, then one on Windows, nothing more to see here.

Noone used subtitles, and I would have been quite confused is someone had, since the video doesn't have them....

Video info language, shows no relevant data, neither does "Translation use", Endscreen Element type, Card Type, Card, Sharing Service, Player Type, Remixes of this Video or "New and Returning viewers"

So from what I can see, the stats that I can access doesn't include views from other frontends, though I probably don't have access to all stats since I don't monetize.

[–] thegiddystitcher@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Weirdly, the viewcount is completely different in the three highlighted areas, I don’t really know what that means, but perhaps someone else can explain it?

I know it's not really important but just in case anyone's curious. The bottom right is showing the video's all-time views (43). The top left is showing the video's views over the last 48 hours (34). And the main graph in the middle of the screen is usually on a delay, so is probably not counting today's views yet hence the (19).

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Very interesting to see! Thanks for compiling these.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago

You are very wellcome, it was an interesting question, and I am happy to help, even if I was unable to answer the big question.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 3 points 11 months ago

Thanks for this follow up and for sharing! That was interesting