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Red Hat Enterprise Linux 10 Dropping The X.Org Server Except For XWayland (www.phoronix.com)

submitted 11 months ago by pnutzh4x0r@lemmy.ndlug.org to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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Red Hat has formally confirmed what many were thinking: Red Hat Enterprise Linux 10 will be doing away with X.Org Server support aside from XWayland.

For those making use of the Red Hat Enterprise Linux 10 in a desktop setting, RHEL10 due for release in H1'2025 will be Wayland-focused. X11 client support will only come via XWayland.

This does also further solidify the X.Org Server in effect being dead upstream. Red Hat engineers were typically the ones managing new X.Org Server releases as well as carrying on with various bits of development.

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[–] socphoenix@midwest.social 10 points 11 months ago (3 children)

This honestly still feels premature for a server based OS. I rely on x forwarding and an rdp server for some tasks, and as far as I know Wayland still doesn’t really have support for either of those.

[–] slembcke@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago

People keep saying this, but X forwarding seems to work just fine with XWayland. I just tried a handfull of X programs between my machines, and neither are running X11. I don't use it everyday to know the gotchas, but there you go. Programs that use shared memory pixel buffers (everything that isn't xeyes realistically) even run better than I remember now that I have gigabit. >_< It's still a way worse experience than VNC or RDP though.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Waypipe addresses forwarding. The major Wayland compositors support either RDP or VNC already I believe.

[–] socphoenix@midwest.social 2 points 11 months ago

Gotcha on the forwarding, my issue with rdp forwarding is I want a server like xrdp, so users don’t need to be logged in locally, which I haven’t seen googling yet.

[–] Laser@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I assume you're talking about X over SSH? That's possible with Wayland via Waypipe. Also I'm not sure why RDP would require X, just a compositor being able to forward the video over network (which is perfectly possible with Wayland) and accepting inputs over network as well, which to my knowledge isn't part of Wayland. Quick check says Gnome already offers RDP and that's Red Hat's DE.

[–] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 11 months ago

Currently Gnome will only allow you to connect to a logged in session. It is more like screen sharing than RDP usually is.