this post was submitted on 04 Jul 2023
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Edit: obligatory explanation (thanks mods for squaring me away)...

What you see via the UI isn't "all that exists". Unlike Reddit, where everything is a black box, there are a lot more eyeballs who can see "under the hood". Any instance admin, proper or rogue, gets a ton of information that users won't normally see. The attached example demonstrates that while users will only see upvote/downvote tallies, admins can see who actually performed those actions.

Edit: To clarify, not just YOUR instance admin gets this info. This is ANY instance admin across the Fediverse.

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[–] Popsip@pawb.social 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

So if one downvotes something and then removes that vote, does doing that removes it saying they downvoted or does it still keep it on record?

[–] muddybulldog@mylemmy.win 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I had to run an experiment on this one.

It appears that changing you vote causes the old vote to be completely deleted from the database and a new vote cast and propagated.

Edit: The above description is what happens in the COMMENT_LIKE or POST_LIKE table HOWEVER the ACTIVITY table reflects both actions, which makes sense since it's a complete transaction log. So, it's a slightly more complex query but the history is maintained.

[–] dack@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

However, that's not really any better for privacy. There's absolutely nothing preventing someone from logging a history of the changes.

[–] muddybulldog@mylemmy.win 4 points 1 year ago

Upon further experimentation, the ACTIVITY table maintains both transactions so... there you have it.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Depends on the rest of the structure of those tables and the supporting procedures that modify them. I haven't checked, but I'm very interested in using this as a sample dataset.

[–] wholeofthemoon@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weird way to say you don't know.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I guess, but it's less "I don't know" and more "it's not knowable" from the screenshot alone. We need to see more of the schema to answer the question. "I don't know" fails to communicate what would be needed to answer the question, it's an okay answer, but I think mine is more useful.

[–] tenextrathrills@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is knowable. You just don’t know it.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, that is what I said.