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[–] SCB@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People living in pennies per day are actually a huge part of the problem, because they by definition live in industrializing communities.

[–] Clent@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No. That's just something you made up.

"Industrializing nations" are easier to address than the nations that have already industrialized.

The momentum behind existing industry is huge. Like a coal industry that is difficult to dismantle because of regressive political leaders.

For countries with no existing infrastructure it's cheaper to go green than not.

Capitalists demand a return on their polluting industrial investments annd are the majority of the problem.

If an auto manufacturers started from zero today, they wouldn't be creating gasoline engines.

Zero emission aircraft are next but that doesn't mean the airlines are going to scrap all their existing aircraft engines and the pollution they cause.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I didn't just make this up. This is a huge problem facing the world because those nations have a right to improve for their people (and many, myself included, view developed nations as having an obligation to help these nations modernize), but we cannot allow for them to fully modernize using the processes we did or global warming is dramatically exacerbated.

This is a real, urgent, and complex problem, and real life is not a game of Civilization. You can't just start Congo further along down your tech tree and expect them to be totally green.