I mean consider even now… I’m not infringing on your free speech by telling you what you just said was misguided at best and as stupid as it sounds at worst.

You still got to say what you want. You can say it again too. Still sounds stupid the second time.

The reality is this isn’t about a person’s ability to say something so much as their bullshit argument.

When someone says “but I have the right!” what they’re really saying is they aren’t intelligent enough to have a good reason or justification. They’re instead screaming “well just cause I can!” It’s a privileged, ill reasoned, temper tantrum of an argument that amounts to “just cause I can.”

[+] intensely_human@lemm.ee -16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it is. It is natural to want to try and shut people up. Resisting the urge to manipulate and control others is work. We all have a responsibility toward a healthy society.

That’s why it’s prosocial when someone steps in for a person who’s being shouted down and puts his own skin on the line to say “let him talk”.

The fact you choose not to carry that burden doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist.

[–] Beetschnapps@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It’s weird to have someone argue that when the context of all this is support of antisemitism.

Of course it’s a positive to help support the voice of someone who might have theirs oppressed. But why go to such extremes to support the oppressor?

Why do you argue that we must advocate for the oppressor? Are we not allowed the freedom to speak up against those that oppress others? Is that speech not allowed?

You see how it’s a stupid circle of inductive reasoning that does nothing to help anyone? Bottom line is a rigid absolute, a utopia is a more destructive and stupid approach than the free speech for which you claim to advocate. Freedom isn’t possible is you tolerate intolerance.