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[โ€“] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Unless all you did was talk about politics, how does it actually affect a relationship (unless they say something actually atrocious)?

[โ€“] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my experience with these types of people, they more and more frequently shift conversation to them wanting their beliefs validated, because normal people have stopped engaging with them.

[โ€“] SSUPII@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

Can understand now. If everything someone's wants to talk is politics then really is not that fun to be around.

[โ€“] platypode@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a friend who was a classic Catholic libertarian in college--he held some views on trans rights, abortion, and economic justice that I find deeply disagreeable. It made conversations a little tricky because there were a whole set of topics I couldn't bring up unless I wanted to wade into a debate immediately; sometimes I did, but often I just wanted to hang out and chill and that was hampered.

It took him exactly one year of being out of college and working a real job to realize that his economic views were fucked, and the whole rest of it unraveled from there. He's now a staunch leftist, and it's way, way easier to hang out with him.

That's not, however, to say it's not worth having friends you disagree with. We remained friends because we were able to disagree productively, and I feel I understand my own political views far better for all those long nights discussing them. Still, it was a friendship that took unusual effort to maintain.

[โ€“] tmyakal@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

My BIL is a Catholic Libertarian. Almost forty and still lives with Mom and Dad, so he never had the brush with reality that your friend went through. He thinks he's politically savvy and always wants "civil debate" with me, but he's utterly insufferable.

I'm not looking forward to Thanksgiving next week.