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Edit for those curious why I shared this: Today !memes@lemmy.ml was popping off with a lot of "No war but class war" memes and they were getting a lot of support from the people over there.

I tried to share this there as well only to find out that apparently I was banned over there last week and I still have a week left in my ban. (Never knew I was due to never being told I was banned?)

Only reason I even found out I was banned over there was due to checking the modlogs for lemmy.ml after I noticed my post was gaining no ground.

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[โ€“] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what I said with this meme

So class war is when we the working class try to take back what we are deserved and culture war is when groups of people are fighting to take the rights of others away (and undermine democracy) under the guise of "it's our culture"

When people scream, "no war but class war," they're usually saying that we should focus our efforts on fighting for what we as workers deserve (class war). By focusing our efforts there without fighting to protect our rights (and secure more) and democracy as a whole we are letting those who are focusing their efforts on culture war win on those grounds.

We can't let them win on those grounds either.

By ignoring the fight in the culture war we will lose the class war. Especially considering the culture war includes the genocide of queer folks.

This is of course glossing over the owner class's (bourgeoisie) influence on the culture war as well which they have a vested interest in making worse because if we have to fight there it usually means that we can't fight as hard elsewhere due to our struggles with survival in general.

Basically we have to fight both wars, we can't just fight one.

[โ€“] Depress_Mode@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fair enough, agreed. I'd say that the language used in the meme is a little ambiguous as to whose civil rights you're referring to, though. My initial interpretation of the meme's sentiment was basically "rich people have civil rights, too, and class warfare would step on those rights." Sorry for going off like that.