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Not everywhere...
The real (inflation-adjusted) incomes of the poorest half of the Chinese population increased by more than four hundred percent from 1978 to 2015, while real incomes of the poorest half of the US population actually declined during the same time period. https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w23119/w23119.pdf
From 1978 to 2000, the number of people in China living on under $1/day fell by 300 million, reversing a global trend of rising poverty that had lasted half a century (i.e. if China were excluded, the world's total poverty population would have risen) https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/China%E2%80%99s-Economic-Growth-and-Poverty-Reduction-Angang-Linlin/c883fc7496aa1b920b05dc2546b880f54b9c77a4
From 2010 to 2019 (the most recent period for which uninterrupted data is available), the income of the poorest 20% in China increased even as a share of total income. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.DST.FRST.20?end=2019&locations=CN&start=2008
By the end of 2020, extreme poverty, defined as living on under a threshold of around $2 per day, had been eliminated in China. According to the World Bank, the Chinese government had spent $700 billion on poverty alleviation since 2014. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/31/world/asia/china-poverty-xi-jinping.html
https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/04/01/lifting-800-million-people-out-of-poverty-new-report-looks-at-lessons-from-china-s-experience
This is why the Chinese people are very supportive of their government. You would be too in this situation.
Exactly, no great mystery as to why Chinese government enjoys overwhelming public support.
Yep, literally no problems at all for Xinnie and company... Nope.
How many times are people going to face this claim?
China's pretty much popped their real estate bubble already, yet consumer spending is already recovering.
this time for sure 😂
I'd not repeat the Pooh meme if I'd were you. It implies Obama being a N-word. But libs and racism go hand in hand, so there you go.
The answer is no, because of the fundamental differences in how Japan and China are run.
Japan is modeled off of a capitalist imperialist economy, similar to the US. And as such, it will stagnate and requires imperialism and increasing levels of exploitation to maintain its economy. It does not have the tools or methodology to develop further without imperialism. And thus, it stagnates.
Meanwhile, China is socialist. It uses dialectical materialism to solve social issues and promote cohesion. And instead of profit, it will seek to optimize material conditions, and identify the barriers to doing so, creating a strategy for development. Through Marxian economics, it understands that productivity comes through cooperation and labour, and not profit. Optimization can be performed throughout the supply chain through central planning.
China runs under C—>M—>C, while Japan runs under M—>C—>M.
China does have problems but it also has the tools to solve them, instead of just sweeping it under the rug.
Seriously. How much do you get paid for shilling China so hard? And where do I sign up?
"why are we talking about the communist party of china under an article about how the bourgeoisie continues to accumulate wealth to the detriment of the proletariat?"
This thread is about a dude in Ireland. It has nothing to do with China.
Say what you want about the west, but China isn’t what the world should be either.
The comment it is in reply to says:
So Yogthos provides a counterpoint where a government is investing in the lower rungs of the society instead of squeezing them. If you want to dispute the mentioned facts it's one thing but the comment is still relevant and not out-of-nowhere China shilling.
The thing is that the comment rings true about the other AES countries also. OP (of the thread, not the post) has identified a problem, and the commies are suggesting a solution to the problem, with statistics that prove it to be viable. You're dismissing the solution as off-topic, but it's very relevant. The thread is directly relevant to the article, and the reply is directly relevant to the thread.
But it is. In lieu of something better, we should all be like China.
happy seething and coping to you little buddy
Sick catch phrase bro. Did they teach you that one in shill school?
It's pretty hilarious how I posted sourced information that made you really mad, but since you had no actual counter point to make you just proceeded to expose yourself as a clown by regurgitating personal attacks you've memorized. A great way to tell us all that you're really mad, but too dumb to say anything intelligible on the subject. 😂
Oh you got me. I’m so mad and dumb.
Dude, you endlessly post about how awesome China is. I don’t have to love everything about the west to realize that that’s fucking weird.
Every time anyone calls you out on anything you use your “seethe and cope” catchphrase.
It’s either your job or you’re a nut. It’s not worth debating you.
When a communist with a politically-oriented account who posts on communist communities of communist instances makes primarily posts in support of communism and communist countries (any explanation for his motives is beyond the comprehension of the limited and finite human mind, he must have been paid by someone to post that comment):
There’s nothing to call him out on. All that you dronie losers say is “how dare you say a country that I don’t like is good with sources, you’re not allowed to do that!”
The term dronie is gaining traction within left-wing spaces and I love it
I think you're the one not worth debating
The fact that you took the time to write this drivel is pretty hilarious. It's nice to know that my posts really get under the skin of people like you.
You either have zero self awareness or you’re a shill. I don’t really care. Either way you suck.
You keep on replying with your childish personal attacks on me here, so clearly you do care. Good of you to expose yourself as an angry loser who attacks random people on the internet. That's all you are.
I do care that someone might get roped in to your weird agenda and I feel it’s necessary to call you out as the shill you are.
If you had balanced arguments it would be different, but you’re very black and white in your support of China and hatred of the west. When challenged you go straight to “seethe and cope” catchphrase. You don’t have discussions in good faith so there’s no point in discussing with you and nothing you say should be taken at face value.
The challenge in question:
An excellent display of the western liberal's attempts of initiating a "good faith discussion", for everyone to see.
The only one who isn't having a discussion in good faith is the one who just follows me around and makes personal attacks because you're upset with the what I'm saying. Thanks for finally admitting that you really are bothered by what I say loser.
Following you around? Lol you really think you’re that interesting? You post about how great China is every where you go. I don’t need to follow you. Any time I see a pro-China post and/or the words “seethe and cope” it’s you. You’re boring and predictable. Get a life man.
I post about a lot of things, but all you appear to focus on is when I talk about China because seeing positive news about China gets under your skin. You keep telling me to get a life, but here you are making another vapid comment because you just can't help yourself. The fact that you don't even realize what a pathetic loser you are is really the cherry on top. Nobody in this thread agrees with you, and your drivel has been downvoted into oblivion here. Take a hint.
Ha! Just saying things doesn’t make them true. Might want to look at those numbers again.
If you’re that disconnected from reality that you can’t even see that you’re the one being downvoted, why should anyone take you seriously?
And really, hook me up with whoever’s paying you. I need some extra work and I’d be much more discreet with my shilling.
LMFAO thanks for letting us know that you don't even understand how federation works. Go look at what this thread looks like outside your loser instance https://lemmy.ml/comment/5801787
It's quite the irony that the guy who posts from an instance that blocks half of lemmyverse talks about people being disconnected from reality. 😂
I don’t get paid to sit on Lemmy all day shilling for China. I’m not too worried about how it all works or how many alt accounts you have downvoting me.
Why so fragile? All of you liberals are the exact same, you can't comprehend that the majority of the world doesn't share your brainless politics so you have a meltdown when your zero-thought analysis doesn't hold up to the slightest scrutiny. No one respects your ideas because you can't back them up in any sense. You don't even know where your own ideas come from.
When pressed to explain your viewpoint instead of putting forward anything all you have are personal attacks. You accuse others of being paid to voice these ideas because your pathetic capitalist ideology projects it's insecurities onto it's opponents as a defense mechanism. Your ideology is so insecure you believe that big scary dictators are paying people $5 a day to fuck with you on the internet. What kind of schizophrenic hellworld do you live in? You live in a solipsistic echo chamber you constructed to cope with the scary things they show you on the news. Live in the real world with the rest of us when you're ready.
What you should be worried is your mental health buddy. The fact that you spent days harassing a stranger on the internet because you disagree with their politics shows that you're a deeply troubled individual. I really do feel sorry for you and sincerely hope that you get the help you clearly need.
I mean, you could just stop replying too. 🤷♂️
But I'm enjoying watching you lose your shit here, it's basically free entertainment.
Same.
I see your shill script insists you have the last word. I can do this forever.