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    it's a swole doge vs cheems meme

    on swole doge side, there are two popups: kCrash and Ubuntu apport. Both have options to see detailed logs and an optional button to send report to developers, along with options to close the popup.
    accompanied is a text that reads "Here's the information. What do you wish to do?"

    on crying cheems side, there's popup for windows and mac. windows has just a cancel button with report being sent already. mac has ignore and report button. there is no option to see logs without reporting on both. here, accompanied text reads, "let's add this to the personally identifiable information we have on you."

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    [–] Phanlix@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    so I decided to try linux. After reading a bit I decided that Fedora sounded like the distro for me with the top 'spin'.

    Black screen. Not Nvidea compatible out of the box. Booted into 'basic graphics'. Looks like total ass on 800x600. Tried to follow a tutorial to get it running, but it didn't want to make changes to the USB version and wanted me to full boot. I didn't want to full wipe my windows just yet, but we're getting there. Found a tutorial about using some semi-auto process to do it, so wish me luck.

    I bet this goes like last time though, given that I already can't even run Linux out of the goddamn box on what is one of the most popular graphics card series ever. I bet I get frustrated trying to make half my shit work like an xbox controller because nothing, and I repeat nothing on this trash OS works without some level of headache.

    For giggles I tried nobara linux which bills itself as a fully configured gaming version of fedora. Unsurprisingly it had a kernel error when booting from USB off the rip lol.

    "Few and far issues between" = completely doesn't work at all on the what is arguably the top linux distro today, sounds about right.

    [–] kjetil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Sounds like you've been very unlucky. Even the open-source Nvidia driver should work out of the box and look OK. Performance is ass, but it's good enough for a usable desktop experience (usable enough to install the proprietary nVidia driver, which at least on Ubuntu's are just a few clicks in the GUI)

    Instead of going Fedora, try PopOS. PopOS has a special ISO for nVidia graphics. Trying to "install" the Nvidia driver yourself on a live USB boot is not the way to go. I doubt it's even possible.

    I've been on (K)Ubuntu, and XBox controllers have literally just been plug and play. I could even use the KDE game controller settings page to compensate for the drift in my left joystick.

    Another option is Bazzite, which is a version of Fedora Immutable ("Silverblue") that comes with all the bells and whistles for gaming, including Nvidia drivers. However the immutable part may or may not be to your taste.

    [–] dukk@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Second this. System76 themselves sell multiple machines with Nvidia cards, so they have at least some incentive to make it work.

    I see Fedora recommended quite a bit, but setting it up on my younger family member’s laptop was bot exactly simple, and setting up his game library proved near impossible.

    PopOS just worked. I try not to be too pushy about Linux, but as someone who was pushed into (and now loves) using Linux, I’d suggest giving it one more shot. (I still dual-boot: keep a small Windows partition for the occasional need).

    [–] zbecker@mastodon.zbecker.cc 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    @dukk @kjetil

    Yeah #Fedora is nontrivial when dealing with proprietary drivers. It doesn't just work out of the box. Your best bet if you want to use Fedora and have an easier gaming experience is #Nobara.

    [–] dukk@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I think OP(original commenter?) mentioned they tried Nobara, but it wouldn’t even boot.

    My consistent recommendation to Linux newcomers is PopOS, it’s a simple, great distros that can be powerful when needed.

    (I myself use Nix btw)

    [–] guskikalola@social.vivaldi.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    @dukk @zbecker I use arch btw. I would recommend Ubuntu for new users, as it was my first distro. But I don't know whats Ubuntu's current state.

    [–] dukk@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I don’t tend to recommend Ubuntu anymore: mainly because of snaps.

    I had a weird start with Linux, using it on my Pi and then eventually just installing NixOS as my first distro. A weird first choice, but honestly it makes even advanced tasks trivial(I can switch my WM/DE in one line!)

    @dukk My first Linux experience was with Ubuntu, as my old laptop couldn't handle Windows anymore. Then I also got a RPI but by that time I already bought a better PC and left Linux. After some years tinkering with the rpi I finally became confident enough to dual boot Kubuntu. Now I only have Linux on my computers ( arch in both pc and laptop )

    [–] Phanlix@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

    Sounds like you’ve been very unlucky.

    No, this is my Linux experience since I first installed ubuntu in 2005. I've tried at least 5 times to pick up this hot garbage and it ends the same way every time. With admission of defeat and an eventual return to an OS that works, which would be windows or mac.