So how close to losing and being forced into an unconditional surrender does Ukraine need to be before Europe stops sending aid at their own huge expense?

[–] Sowhatever@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Huge expense? Not one life lost, all infrastructure intact and got rid of mostly 80's military hardware while getting budget for new stuff and a whole lot of free field testing and marketing for export.

We are not sending gold bars or euro bills, we're paying local companies to produce ammo or sending surplus hardware "for the value of $$$" that would otherwise sit in a hangar somewhere.

This is the cheapest war "Europe" has ever fought, can't say the same about Ukraine or Russia.

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The reason they're trying to fast track EU membership for Ukraine, a country that in normal times would stand zero chance of membership, is so that its debts to the US will become all of the EU's. This won't be cheap.

[–] IjonTichy@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the stupidest take I've read in a long time. This is just not how any of it works.

[–] LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Why do you think the EU would want a shithole like Ukraine (even before the Nazi's ran the place) as a member? Open to your genius take.

[–] figaro@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think the plan is to not let it get to that point? Ukraine is the front line against Russia. If the front line falls, the front line then becomes Poland, which is just one step away from Germany.