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[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I dont care about AI art, I set healthy boundaries with technology and find fulfillment elsewhere, and while income inequality sucks I'm grateful for what I have. You could call this gratitude bootlicking but I call this tweet "Moralizing Depression".

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can do both.

You can be grateful for what you have while realizing that the current state of the world is bullshit.

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, but I unironically believe that being alive in the 21st century is great and fantastic. I'm not sure people here feel that.

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, the backlash comes from AI being a very real threat to many artistic fields that were already very hard to make a living in. What they have isn't much, it's hard to be grateful for less.

[–] Fungah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It also represents the first. Chance the common person has ever had to make their visions come to life.

If you look at art as an elitist tradition largely fuelled by the wealthy and supporting only a very, very small number of living artists, requiring a kind of professional leap of of faith that anyone who isn't blood related to a wealthy person would be called stupid for making, then AI art doesn't seem so scary anymore.

If everyone has the ability to create compelling images, audio, movies even, then we don't need people to spend 4 years in art school and potentially the rest of their life breaking their backs trying to get someone else to notice their art, while contributing to society only as much as whatever job they're forced to work while trying to make it contributes.

Few people who aren't wealthy buy art. And most of the art they buy is from established artists. It's an oppressive and classist status quo that were all worse off with, that will survive AI nonetheless as the rich place an even greater value on "authentic" art.

Who AI art is really going to hurt are the people who draw furries, sell prints at farmers markets of copyrighted characters, and create bland soulless corporate visual bullshit for a living. I guess that's most artists, and yeah. It sucks for them, but stopping this train because Microsoft wants a photorealistic dog dick for their next logo ain't happening.

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

If you look at art as an elitist tradition largely fuelled by the wealthy and supporting only a very, very small number of living artists, requiring a kind of professional leap of of faith that anyone who isn't blood related to a wealthy person would be called stupid for making, then AI art doesn't seem so scary anymore.

Well, I don't look at it that way. Art is a creative tradition, one that every person is capable of realizing in some form or another (and should, for their own health). Artists are, by and large, common people, too. Millions of them have made that "professional leap of faith" without a safety net because they wanted to pursue their passion for art, not because they thought they might one day make millions off of their works.

I get that it's really cool that people who haven't dedicated their lives to art can now bring their visions to life. But I personally think it's callous and unfair to call artists the greedy ones in this equation when they've, by and large, always been struggling to get by despite what they contribute to billion dollar industries and to society.

I also challenge that only the very wealthy buy art. That may have been true for much of our history, but the ability to sell copies of their art while retaining the original has given consumers much cheaper ways to enjoy art. And that's not counting all of the art we get to view/listen to for free, even if it wasn't made specifically for us. Patreon and similar sites have also created a great way for people to support and interact with the artists they love even if they aren't wealthy. I think it's fair to say that we're living in the least classist era of art.