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[–] LemmyAtem@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Honest question - what's a tankie? I feel like I've seen them mentioned a ton on Lemmy but I'd never heard the term prior to a few days ago. From the image it looks like a maga/skinhead combo?

[–] agreyworld@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Tankie was first used for that kind of communist supporter who kept singing Russia's praises/defending Russia even when Russia was sent 5000 tanks to crush a popular uprising in Czechoslovakia (the "Prague Spring") on August 20, 1968. Some people just couldn't accept that a communist country could do something bad, so defended the action.

Nowadays, it's used to refer to those that are strongly supportive of Russia, completely ignoring the awful things they do. Often these days there's a lot of anti American bent to it. Like, anything anti America and American "imperialism" must be good - even blatant and awful Russian Imperialism.

These days they calmly explain how Ukraine just needs to come to the table and discuss peace (ignoring that Ukraine wouldn't exist if they did so) and blame America for the war in Ukraine for... well... they're America. The people who want war, or are causing the war, are those giving Ukraine weapons - not the country that is literally invading it.

[–] Discoslugs@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

Basically, it's Communists who support authoritarianism.

[–] Coryneform@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

what is "authoritarianism" to you?

[–] SirSnufflelump@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're communists, but not your every day "people should hold the power" communists. More like "tianenmen never happened, and if it did it wasn't that bad" type

[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which makes them no different from the western imperialists they hate so much.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago
[–] aski3252@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Originally, it was used to describe communists who followed the party line and supported suppressing Hungarian workers with tanks.

Today it means ultra-authoritarian marxist-leninist.

[–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean there is a word for that that's less derogatory: Stalinist

[–] h34d@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

It's not entirely the same though. Some of the "tankies" in the West seem to be Maoists more than Stalinists, as far as I can tell. Besides, some (many?) Stalinists also consider the term "Stalinist" derogatory, and prefer to call themselves "Marxist-Leninists".

[–] arisunz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

genocide denier and hard authoritarian. fash dressed in red, basically.