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Did Hamas ask those 34 children to move south or were they murdered at gun point by terrorists?
All war is horrific.
But I'm so tired of hearing about how one side is righteous and innocent and the other is murdering children.
Both sides are engaging in war.
People will die in war.
Those 1,200 Israeli civilians, those 34 children were not "civilian casualties" that refused to evacuate. They were gunned down by over 1500 hamas terrorists in person, face to face.
Does that make it any less horrific that bombs are killing civilians in Gaza? No of course not. But it doesn't give anyone the moral high ground either. It's fucking war. Start a fucking war and people are going to die.
Hamas said they would do it again. Israel will operate on the standard for war: remove the attackers ability to fight or their will to fight. Israel is not going to tit for tat try to exchange proporte firepower. Why would they? How does that win a war?
Israel has said it's mission is to destroy Hamas. I would take Israels word at face value to move south. Hamas never gave Israelis the option to move south before thet invaded.
It is not like IDF isn't bombing the south you know, or causing humanitarian catastrophe and refusing to acknowledge it. And also refusing to stop the fighting even to let so much needed humanitarian aid to reach the civilians.
That's despicable and unforgivable. It screams volumes what your government and IDF thinks about the civilian population of Gaza and how much they really care about those civilians. And all this coming from the "most moral army in the world". If you can't see the double standards and extreme hypocrisy in this situation I would say you are either a paid bot or a human being with a very questionable moral values.
What Hamas did is horrible, I agree, but as Antonio Gutierrez said it didn't happen in a vacuum. Hamas is the reaction of years long military, economic and what not occupation of Gaza and is a symbol of people's discontent of the status quo. I am pretty sure a similar faction would have emerged in Israel if they were in this situation.
People want to live in peace and have some guarantees that they will be treated equally.
And there are so many reported and documented violations of human rights in Israel against Palestinians prior to this war, who were never properly investigated from Israel or came with the approval of your government.
Do you know how those tunnels first emerged, they were dig, because Gazans were refused the right of free movement.
This Gaza strip even before the war broke out was more or less an open air prison and now it turned into a mass grave and the civilian infrastructure is severely damaged. People lost their homes, family members, their loved ones, neighbours, friends.
And again one wrong doesn't justify committing another wrong. If you kill my brother this doesn't give me the right to kill your Ur brother, wife, kids and parents and say oh but you killed my brother.
You will just go into a spiral of violence, hatred and nothing good would emerge from this for years to come. This is the road Israel chose for themselves.