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[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The one that isn't taking away trans rights, making abortion illegal, and saying the last election was stolen, seems like the lesser evil actually. I can agree that I think our parties would be slightly better if first past the post was changed to allow for multiple parties, but i think it's ridiculous to say both parties are currently the same. Edit: As I responded to thecrotch, I disagree with the assertion that the Dem party is evil. Flawed? sure, our 2 party system will only allow for flawed parties, but to say their evil is downright showing ignorance of US politics or disinformation given the examples that I gave.

[–] BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not to people overseas. There’s no difference between being indiscriminately murdered by a Republican or a Democrat to the people dying.

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They don't have to be the same to both suck. The lesser evil is, by definition, evil.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But less evil.

Also by definition.

Who the fuck wants more evil?

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fine, vote your conscience. I was replying to a guy who said Democrats aren't evil. That guy is wrong. Less evil doesn't mean not evil.

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're right, what I should have also added to my post was that, I disagree with the assertion that the Dem party is evil. Flawed? sure, our 2 party system will only allow for flawed parties, but to say their evil is downright showing ignorance or disinformation for the examples that I gave.

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Democrats voted for Afghanistan, Iraq, the Patriot act, and countless other evil legislation. They're absolutely evil. So they're less evil than the Republicans, so what? Should I give them a cookie?

[–] frunch@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, but you should still vote for them. What else can you do? Vote independent? Change the world?

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

My state is reliably going to be won by the same party no matter what I do, and that party is going to get 100% of our electoral votes no matter what I do. So I vote third party, because if they can get 20% of the popular vote they get to be in the debates next time around. Living in a locked down state, it's the only way my vote can possibly have a chance of making any difference.

[–] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're like 20 years behind, catch up. Give them a cookie? Give them your vote. The alternative is republicans who RIGHT NOW, IN THIS YEAR are attempting to restrict abortions, deny the elections, restrict lgbt+ rights. Democrats are fighting against that. But yeah you're right maybe split you're vote because both sides "are the same".

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't say they're the same. They don't have to be the same to both suck. Fuck you for telling me how to vote. You got a lot of nerve.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The person you’re responding to isn’t wrong, but you do whatever you feel is right.

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's absolutely wrong. A lot of the same reps who voted for the evil shit I mentioned 20 years ago are still around. Democrats sponsor and vote for evil shit to this day. How many times has the Patriot act been extended? The RESTRICT act was bipartisan. The fact that they wear a pride flag while doing it doesn't absolve them.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone once said ‘fuck you for telling me how to feel. You got a lot of nerve.’

[–] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I don't think anybody said that. Also, nobody's telling you how to feel. Democrats regularly sponsor and vote for evil shit, that's a fact, feelings don't enter into it.