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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems to me that Hamas "governs" Palestine the same way groups like the Mafia or Yakuza "govern" the people they extort.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Didn't the Palestinian people vote them in?

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Almost 20 years ago, when the majority of Palestinians alive today were either too young to vote or hadn't even been born. How long after an election do you assume elected leaders have any real mandate?

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My point was that regardless of their ability to do it, they were at one time the elected officials of the geographic location known as Gaza. They're obviously not a real government in policy and action, but they're the only thing that exists to even bear the term or concept of governance in the area.

There is no other group to be considered as the government, no matter how awful Hamas is at being a government of any variety.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

At one time, yes, but I don't think we should be holding the Palestinians today to that. That would be like the Dubya era. If he had kept office until now, he would certainly not represent the opinion of Americans.

Hamas is embedded like a parasite, but there's better ways to point this out.

[–] astral_avocado@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like over a decade ago but they havent held elections since. I've seen countering articles saying Hamas has overwhelming support by the people, vs actually Hamas murders anyone who goes against them. So who knows. Fog of war and all that.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

actually Hamas murders anyone who goes against them

Well that would result in them having overwhelming support, among the survivors that is.