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I wouldn't say nobody, but I would say the people that dominate the area I'm trying to volunteer and work in.
I work in a healing center where there are 29 women on staff and 1 man.
I cannot get these people to understand that as much as they want to push forward social movements, which I very much agree with, this must not come at the expense of men who are trying to heal.
I will literally have counselors co-facilitating with me, who want to make every point about how women are oppressed, pushed down in the workforce, face issues.
I'm not in denial of those, but no man coming into a healing environment to work on themselves, be vulnerable, and explore their own journey, needs to hear how much men are shitty.
They say that to the patients? That sounds incredibly unprofessional.
It's insane, I even made a complaint to the director who of course is a woman, and she effectively denied that it was happening or could happen.
I told her I don't even want people not to think these things, everybody who is in their own place of trauma has to get their shit off their chest.
All I wanted was a place where men didn't have to hear this crap.
And that's being incredibly neutral in my opinion because there are a lot of opportunities for men to talk about just how insane and shitty women can be. But I don't want to talk about those things, I just want them to stop shit talking men especially their own clientele.
Pushing any sort of socio-political agenda on people who desperately need help should be grounds for losing your license to operate. If someone was having a mental health crisis and the people who were supposed to help them instead tried to convince them that women have it worse, I could see it pushing that person over the edge into committing suicide. That sounds so incredibly invalidating and possibly malicious.
This is a ridiculous comment. If you can’t handle the way your actions affect others than get out. If you think you know how to “heal” better than nurses then go do it yourself
"I am depressed."
"Have you considered that women have it worse?"
Is the type of mental health care you are okay with?
Strawmanning
I mean, that's essentially what OC said his coworkers were doing. Not those exact words, sure, but summarization =/= strawman.
And the bigots can’t stand to understand that their actions need to be consitered and they aren’t the end all be all of the world? If sexists don’t like the service then they aren’t under any obligation to use it
Lol what? It's a health facility, not a fucking Walmart. You don't have to be a bigot to not want your feelings invalidated by a misandrist counselor.
I quite frankly don’t give a shit what some sexist thinks. Don’t use it if they are just so bothered
putting out the fire of gender inequality with oil
its interesting how when people are a majority they dont see the irony in their actions.
There are many jobs that I don't bother to apply for despite knowing I'd excel and enjoy it, simply because I'm male. Many people aren't comfortable with males in certain roles. Obviously the reverse is true and disproportionate but most people seem to be oblivious that men are oppressed too.
That's an excellent point and it's one of these elephants in the room that people can't see.
Does anybody wonder why there's virtually no male kindergarten teachers? Convicted before the crime as if women have never acted inappropriately towards children?! I mean for fuck sakes my own mother sexually abused me.
If you've ever known any male nurses, they will tell you the stories of being outnumbered 30 to 1 at minimum, and then facing constant sexual harassment, abuse, and career suppression because of their gender.
And my own story, I work in a system of power, the healing sector, which is dominated by women. And as the one guy they're trying to do the right thing and serve men, we face nothing but abuse. It is driving me out.
Exactly. You can see this on various aspects of life. Racism, sexism, etc. Many use them as excuse to throw out the baby with the bath water.
I disagree. If someone isn’t able to handle the way their actions affect others then they shouldn’t be around others