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wow just wow while i can't say i didn't see this one coming but it always amazes me where greed could lead someone

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[–] ivyZorz@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This. I’m pretty sure this is a result of the ad engine changes they made to chrome a few months ago. Manifest V2 is what enables uBlock Origin to be so effective iirc and they’re removing it in chrome in favor of Manifest V3.

Firefox on the other hand still supports V2.

[–] RobotToaster@infosec.pub 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Firefox on the other hand still supports V2.

For now, mozilla rely heavily on google for funding.

They dropped xul extensions to have extension compatibility with chrome a few years ago.

[–] demonicbullet@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How does that work exactly?

Like they are direct competitors no? Wouldn't Mozilla be motivated to fuck google as hard as possible?

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like they are direct competitors no?

No, Google pays Firefox to make it seem like it still has competitors and isn't a monopoly. However, a key condition of that payment is that the default search engine in Firefox is Google. They change that, they lose most of their funding -- not most of their Google funding, most of their revenue (which is nearly all Google).

Wouldn’t Mozilla be motivated to fuck google as hard as possible?

If they still existed as an actual company, sure. But, it's not. It's a corpse that Google animates with their huge funding to make it seem like they still have competitors. Technically, Google doesn't own Mozilla, but in a 2012 report, 85% of their funding came from Google. So, they're never going to do anything that risks that funding.

[–] demonicbullet@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Oh, so google has adopted the Microsoft strategy.

Strange, Id think their monopoly would be considered natural if they just let Firefox collapse and didn't buy out dying/barely competing companies.

[–] dani6h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Back in 2005, they started paying Mozilla to promote the Google search engine via their browser. Chrome still wasn't a thing back then. The weird thing is that they never stopped those payments even today, they even increased them on almost a yearly basis.

That was back then.. Why would they do it now that it no longer makes financial sense since Mozilla is just 3% of the browser market? No clue

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

So there is competition. Firefox goes away there is no other browser and Google is a monopoly.

[–] rumbleran@suppo.fi 2 points 1 year ago

They dropped xul extensions to have extension compatibility with chrome a few years ago.

I still miss XUL extensions because they could properly modify UI of the browser instead of just being pieces of JavaScript run inside tabs.

[–] KeepItDory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was curious how people feel about Braves new Browser? I usually stick to Firefox but I've given it a try. It however does seem to be chromium based.

[–] beppi@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah its just reskinned chromium like the rest, but it'still nowhere near as bad as chrome, edge and the other telemetry filled ones.

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