Not sure how accurate it is but given the figures I vaguely recall, this feels pretty accurate.
Realizing that the Discovery is longer than any of these ships really puts shit into perspective
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That the Defiant is as big as the entire saucer on the Constitution class is wild. I thought it was much much smaller
It's even funnier when you hear the Sisko's initial description of the defiant.
And also
Meanwhile it's almost as big as the OG Enterprise which did in fact have a regulation size bowling alley inside.
So all that space, basically just for engines and guns on the Defiant.
It had a lot of engines and guns
It also had a Romulan cloaking device and ablative armor that would disintegrate when hit rather than rupture.
I always forget just how large the defiant is. I feel like there is rarely anything close enough in the camera shots to get a good idea of scale. Other than DS9 I mean.
Everything looks tiny when compared to ds9
Although when they created DS9 in Star Trek Online, they had to massively scale it up because otherwise it would have gotten lost among all the players' ships, both by sheer volume and because so many ships in the game are absurdly large.
Same thing happened to Bookers ship from Discovery Season 3 and 4. It can fit in the cargo bay (barely) of the Discovery and yet in the game it's like a third the size of said Discovery.
I think the shot we see of it against the Enterprise E in "First Contact" doesn't help with the perception of the scale of the ship.
Just goes to show how much bigger all of the ships got after TOS.
Interesting thing is that everything shrunk after the Galaxy Class.
I'm thinking it's because the galaxy class was a relic of Star Fleet's golden age. Most of their enemies were either allies or quiet, they started to think this little war thing was beneath them and turned their flagship into a luxury cruise liner.
I wonder what post-Wolf 359 Picard would say if he met Season 1 Picard. Hell, I wonder what post dominion war Picard would say to both of them?
It mirrored the contemporary idea of the "End of History", where all the existational crises were done with, the federation (was basically moving into a time of refinement rather than having to worry that the experiment might still utterly and completely fail. TNG was basically one long, slow lesson of why that was a flawed notion. You don't build a cruise liner, fill it with families, and then intentionally send it into the kind of peril that regularly befitted the Enterprise D. In retrospect, it was completely ridiculous.
I appreciate the link. I've seen the phrase "The end of History" before, but after reading about it, I can't help but think the phrase has a quaint "Manifest destiny" vibe to it, people making some really powerful proclamations they'll regret later.