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[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 10 months ago

Guns are a tool that are made specifically to KILL PEOPLE

And steak knives are tools that are designed to consume food but they still KILL PEOPLE all the same. Not sure what your point is.

Yes, you do have a higher level of firearm freedom from the rest of the world, and that is exactly why you have a spree shooting problem

Except we've ALWAYS had a higher level of firearm freedom. But these incidents have only been become popular in the last 30 years, in which time our firearm freedoms (and freedoms in general) have only seen more and more restrictions.

US states with the highest level of gun violence are ALSO the states with the highest level of gun restrictions.

[-] Kedly@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

My point is a gun can kill a LOT more people, a LOT faster, with LESS skill than any other comparable tool, which means more people can kill more victims before something is able to stop them, the kill count from a mass shooting is almost always higher than a mass stabbing. And good luck if you think your civilian firearms would be enough to take on your state of the art army. If the Army had the will to oppress its own citizens, it could, and whether or not its citizens were armed would factor very little in that will

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

My point is a gun can kill a LOT more people, a LOT faster, with LESS skill than any other comparable tool

You mean like...a truck? Like the French one that was used to kill and maim way more people than any gun in American history?

[-] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

This is such a bad faith argument. If trucks were the supreme killing instrument then each soldier would be issued a truck.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl -2 points 10 months ago

The only "bad faith argument" is you pretending not to understand why that makes zero sense.

The difference is guns are better suited to destroying a specific target. But these people obviously aren't targeting anyone at all.

If you lined up a street full of ISIL terrorists, the truck would be the far more effective weapon.

[-] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Then why aren't these people using trucks?

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl -2 points 10 months ago
[-] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Because according to you trucks are the superior weapon.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No, that is NOT what I said. You obviously have no interest in a good faith discussion so I'm not going to engage with you any further. Goodbye.

[-] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

You may not have technically said it but you were implying it. Or maybe you just meant that a truck is comparable or equal to guns? Why exactly are you bringing up trucks? You are trying to distract from the very valid and obvious fact that guns are designed to kill and some gun platforms are designed to kill people in combat situations and those designs that are picked by the military for very good reasons are also picked by these people for pretty much the same set of reasons. A truck, given the right specific set of circumstances can be devastating and yet the military and these scum bag shooters pick guns because they are designed to be a highly effective killing tool in pretty much any circumstance. Goodbye goober.

[-] Kedly@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

To my knowledge, most countries require YEARS of training and certification in order to be able to drive a vehicle, for that very reason dumbass. Do mass vehicular murder incidents happen as much as mass shootings? No

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl -1 points 10 months ago

Let me get this straight; You think driver training teaches you how not to murder people...? Is that right?

...and I'm the dumbass

[-] Kedly@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago

Lmao you have the critical thinking skills of a salamander, its adorable

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