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[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (46 children)

anyone who buys an SUV is a stupid fucker. there are other types of cars that have just as much unnecessary seat space in them. if you bought an SUV I'm talking directly to you and I'm calling you an idiot to your face. on the internet.

[–] mob@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

My Ford Taurus isn't going to get into the Uintas or Wasatch range. Getting rid of my SUV will really hurt my wifes ability to release rehabilitated animals.

But, I don't want to be a stupid fucker. What should I get after I get rid of my SUV?

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Subaru hatchbacks are great off road and have about the same capacity as most SUVs.

[–] ur_dad@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

100% agree. I'm a handyman and drive an outback. People are usually surprised when I open the hatch and it's full of my tool boxes.

[–] mob@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pretty low clearance but maybe we can get some beavers in there.

I was being snarky originally but you could have a point there.

[–] gulasch_hanuta@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are literally the only reason they should exist. One does not need such a car in suburbs or cities.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Just require a commercial license/insurance for vehicles that large (and up)

You’ll have a lot less people who don’t need them

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The older (until 2003 ish) Impreza can hold a whole ass washer/dryer/oven/dishwasher in the back no issue then they made it too round. I remember helping someone move and they had a stupid "truck" but could not get the bed cover off so me and my snoopy looking car moved all the appliances (3 trips) while the "truck" moved boxes and flat furniture.

Edit to add:

If you want to have a better chance at offroad with a subaru invest in a good skidplate and if really needed they have a higher clearance model. I have been places in them that the brodozers get stuck in seconds.

[–] Number1SummerJam@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Even an older model SUV like a Honda CRV will take up a lot less space than its modern counterpart. Station wagons can be sexy too if that's your style.

[–] greenmarty@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Don't let me start about my station wagon. I can get them back seats perfectly horizontal connecting the back space with middle and it makes comfy double bed. Not to mention that under the floor there are tons of storage spaces to keep all the tools and food or whatever out of the way.

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[–] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While parent is extreme and minimizes that some people have legitimate needs... You do raise another interesting point... You have an SUV and a Fullsize Sedan. I'm sure you have your reasons but it's an amusing anecdote.

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[–] bigschnitz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

A station wagon is easier for moving animals, more space than a small SUV - it's lower to the ground (huge plus if you have to lift them in, easier for them if you are leading them up a portable ramp).

The trade off is you can't do soft sand, cross deeper streams etc, but IMO animals don't need to be released far off track, to me it's worth the trade off.

[–] greenmarty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

People driving heavy terrain in wilderness around here use small jeep like cars. Even US army used use them back in the day before monster trucks became a thing.
Edit: I meant small variants. Not the big size ones.

[–] mob@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] greenmarty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But it's not huge ass truck like vehicle. One is parked right next to mu European sized car and Jeep's smaller overall even if bit higher due to being offroad vehicle.

Edit: I mean small jeeps. Not their big variants.

I think point of critique of modern SUV usage is about their unnecessary big size and weight which leads to space wasting and higher fuel consumption which has its own negatives.

[–] random65837@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Depends on which model you're talking about.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A four door jeep is very much a SUV, a two door jeep less so.

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[–] Rouxibeau@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (13 children)
[–] bad_alloc@feddit.de 20 points 1 year ago

They are a lot more efficient in their class and might convince some ICE drivers to switch. Their range tends to be quite good. Unfortunately they have drawbacks:

  • They require a very large battery. If you don't find >150kW chargers, you'll be waiting a long time
  • More batteries per car = worse environmental impact from production
  • Road degradation grows by the fourth power w.r.t. vehicle weight. The big batteries make electric SUVs very heavy
  • SUVs are more dangerous for pedestrians due to their size
  • In a crash SUVs deliver much more energy, killing more people.
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