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It's no gun control (read=the absence of gun control), it's mental health, it's poverty. It's not taking care of your citizens.
The states is fucked, but if you think other countries dont have problems with mental health and poverty, but maybe 1 mass shooting in the last 50 years, then I dont know what to tell you
I never said that ?
You said that mental health and poverty was the key reason you have so many spree shootings, its not, its how easy it is to access guns in the states
Yeah I listed that first
You know what, fair enough. Sorry for the combativeness
You misread no as not right? Cuz I had to double back after reading your comment chain.
Yep, that was where I read wrong, just jumped back to see
Shit I understand now lmao Rephrasing that...
But that's the American dream isn't it.
Become hyper wealthy and then abuse everyone underneath you. No one in power wants there to be a social ladder, because if there was a social ladder people might try and climb it.
It's not poverty. Most mass shooters are not in poverty. Not well off, sure, but not destitute.
Assault style weapons are expensive.
Brand new AR-15s are available for $400 all day long. It's not even a week's rent most places. Poverty isn't keeping people from arming themselves.
But you're right. Technically.
There are plenty of people in this country living well above the poverty line without the means to care for themselves, due to the extreme cost of healthcare, shelter and food. Nobody in this country should have to struggle for any of these basic human necessities.
And yet here we are, arguing about the price of guns in a country that invented school lunch debt.
Ah, didn't think of this. You're probably right
I'm not trying to parse out the difference between lever action, semi auto, assault style, assault rifle, etc... That's all besides the point of my original supposition: poverty does not cause mass shootings.
There are millions of people in poverty and none of them are doing mass shootings. They're almost all lower middle and middle class people going on these senseless rampages.
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What ? no, I agree it's the lack of gun control AND all those other things. Perhaps my wording, sorry.
No problem, I see it now. There's just currently a lot of pro-gun people insisting that every single social problem must be solved before we can do anythjng about guns.
Yea my bad I rephrased my original comment because it was obviously ambiguous judging by the replies I got.