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[–] crackajack@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone with half a brain and could read elementary level will see that you have not answered all my question.

We both admit that the West is flawed. However, just a yes or no. Do you acknowledge that USSR has wrongfully imprisoned and created atrocities that is just as morally bad?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've literally answered this question in detail in several replies. Please work on your reading comprehension.

[–] crackajack@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just answer the questions with yes or no that's what I am asking of you. Do you approve of Soviet mass imprisonment and purges that happened? Have you spoken to those who were imprisoned? Are you jobless and on welfare?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I already answered this question. Why don't you answer this question, if you have two imperfect systems and one results in less suffering than the other which system is better?

[–] crackajack@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A rational person would choose the less imperfect system. So, by asking me this question, does this mean you acknowledge and approve the arbitrary imprisonment of Soviet citizens by the government? Are you implying that that is better?

You also did not answer other questions though. If you think the communist system is better, why did it fall? Why do people risked getting shot crossing the Berlin Wall from the east, and Cubans crossing the Carribean, than the other way around? If life is better in communist system, why did so many emigrate despite guaranteed and free basic necessities provided? Do you just want to get free stuff to wilfully turn a blind eye to state repression? Have you spoken to former detainees? Do you have a job?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago

Except there wasn't any arbitrary imprisonment. That's just something you pulled out of your ass and keep repeating. Just like in any system, some people ended up being detained wrongly. It's on you to show proof that more people were systemically than under other systems. It certainly appears that US wrongly detains far more people than USSR ever has.

If you think the communist system is better, why did it fall?

Plenty of capitalist regimes fall all the time. Using your logic that's sufficient reason to abandon it yes?

Why do people risked getting shot crossing the Berlin Wall from the east, and Cubans crossing the Carribean, than the other way around?

Why did vast majority of people not do this?

If life is better in communist system, why did so many emigrate despite guaranteed and free basic necessities provided?

They didn't, very tiny percentage of people leave communist systems, and it's never to get basic necessities. I guess we've already established that you don't even understand basic concepts like per capita.

Do you just want to get free stuff to wilfully turn a blind eye to state repression?

No this is just an idiotic thing you keep repeating because you think it's a really clever gotcha. You're clearly ok turning a blind eye to repression under capitalism though since it's the system you keep defending here.

Have you spoken to former detainees under your capitalist regime?

Do you have a job?

I do, and I almost certainly make more than your dumb ass.