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Photos show scale of the destruction of Israel air attacks on Gaza
(www.aljazeera.com)
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Fuck Israel for trying to defend against terrorism you mean?
Just ask yourself - if Iran did this to an Israeli city 'in defense of the people of Gaza', who would you be saying to fuck?
I've been saying fuck Israel for years. They've been tearing innocent families out of their homes to occupy their land for their entire existence. No fucking wonder they got radicalized and fight back. It's the same story with the US and Iran man, they helped create all the terrorists that attack them.
Did what exactly?
Look at the pictures in the link. If that was an Israeli city hit by Iran, who would be at fault? Now they are actually of Gaza. Whose fault is it in reality? If you didn't answer Israel to one of those two questions, then you hold that Israel can do no wrong.
If no one would've done terrorism on October 7th, no one would do anything like you see on a photo today. And, oh, how much more would you be upset if Israel would do attacks without a warning, just like hamas does, I can't imagine.
If you have balls to blame Israel for the existence of "kill all Jews" in Palestinians' doctrine, you are out of your mind.
Group A is angry. It shoots missles and kills innocent civilians. Group B states "This will not stand! We must defeat group A and put an end to their killing of innocent civilians!" Group B then shoots missles, but instead of just killing group A, they kill a bunch more innocent civilians. On that last group of civilians, who is to blame for their death? In abstract it should be the ones shooting the missles.
You might be tempted to say it was group A's fault for shooting the first batch of missles, thinking I am referring to Hamas. That is why I made up the (hopefully) hypothetical scenario that group A is Israel and group B is Iran. All I want to get across is those that shoot missles and kill innocents REGARDLESS OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES are to blame for the death they cause.
Group B is unrelated so the whole thing is unrelated.
I'm not proposing to remove all blame from Israel. But its actions are within adequate frame, and it can be investigated and held accountable. This never applies to Palestinians, they won't be prosecuted and will proceed with terrorism if not stopped.
Group B fired missles that killed innocent civilians in both scenarios. Proposing they are unrelated removed all blame from them.
Also, when was the last time any resolution at the UN security council has passed and held Israel accountable? Seems like the whole region has avoided any formal accountability, both Hamas and Israel.
Whatever the UN did wrong, it doesn't mean Israel can be treated like terrorists.
Whatever Hamas did wrong, doesn't mean that the Palestinians can be treated like terrorists.
This is not what's happening.
All the suffering of Palestinians are the result of electing hamas and its actions.
Hamas can stop the suffering immediately by surrendering and releasing hostages.
In what world would either of those things happen?
In a world where a person stabbing themselves with a knife can realize they are only hurting themselves by proceeding, and stop until it's too late. A knife will not stop until the person stabbing themselves with it stops.
As for your take on my words, it's laughable. Describe me a world where a group of people do nothing but build swords, them use them to defeat another group who has guns, then "unsteal" the land they refuse to live without, successfully.
You sure you want to call Israel that, while Gaza is literally controlled by terrorists who vowed to destroy Jews and have been regularly bombing Israel by unreliable missiles?
Yeah because of those same standards (such as when Israel presented a map a few months ago with no Palestine on it, insinuating there wouldn't be Palestinians, which is ethnic cleansing)
Oh wow, a map issue. Genocide! Clearly they must have their citizens killed for it!
The Palestinians that had nothing to do with the terror attack don't deserve to be killed either. One in the same
Hamas thinks different, apparently. If they cared about Palestinians they wouldn't use civillan buildings to fire missiles, for example.
I am not denying Hamas as an extremist organization, even though they bombed that hospital out of incompetence. My point being every true reason you've listed about Hamas are still things Israel has done to Palestinians as well
You mean Israel did something comparable to a sudden violent attack on civilians, killing hundreds and taking hostages? Did it also announce the elimination of all Palestinians as a goal for better future by chance? Do Israeli happily shout "our god is the greatest" when they see missiles launching?
And I don't mean any of this makes killing Palestinian civillians okay. But these are clues that show how they are not adequate. It is normal to see people suffer from their inadequate actions. There is no use in blaming Israel after you start a war against it, just like there is no use in blaming a knife that you stabbed your own throat with.
People can proceed with their sympathy towards Palestinians, and they may even deserve it. But they also deserve all the blame for their poor choices.