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President Joe Biden was asked by a reporter in Israel on Wednesday what made him confident that the Israelis weren't behind the explosion that killed hundreds at a Gaza hospital on Tuesday.

Biden responded that it was "the data I was shown by my Defense Department."

Two U.S. officials told ABC News the Pentagon independently concluded the Gaza hospital blast was likely caused by an errant Palestinian Islamic Jihad rocket that fell short of its target.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  1. He was asked on the street by a random reporter.

  2. His quote includes "likely"

  3. For the last couple years Bidens off the cuff remarks haven't exactly been reliable.

Yet people are treating this as an official stance of the US Government...

[–] li10@feddit.uk 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I’ll take what the president says as the stance of the US government, and I don’t think that’s remotely unreasonable…

If he’s making mistakes with off the cuff remarks, then he needs to stop making off the cuff remarks.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

I’ll take what the president says as the stance of the US government

It's certainly more likely to be the correct way if looking at it than it was a few short years ago.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, the president is stopping short of saying it was Hamas yet, so there you go.

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody thinks it was Hamas. Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) is a different Iran-supported group.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No one from the US government has said it was anyone...

Just "it doesn't look like Israel is responsible"

Yet people are acting like it's undeniable proof...

[–] Goldoad@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Fades@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The same people who jumped on the Israel definitely bombed that hospital bandwagon are now so sure that nothing short of 100% proof could ever sway them

[–] Wakmrow@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

A week ago Biden said he saw beheaded babies

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Biden's been making stupid off the cuff remarks since the 80s, it's practically what he's known for.

[–] vertigo3pc@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

"Iraq has WMD's" is a similar statement, backed by an entire administration, that also led to unnecessary deaths.

Its a political statement, because if Israel did attack the hospital, then that's another outright war crime right after Israel was threatened by Jordan, Lebanon, and Iran.

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Uh, did you miss this part?

Two U.S. officials told ABC News the Pentagon independently concluded

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The embedded tweet:

While we continue to collect information, our current assessment, based on analysis of overhead imagery, intercepts and open source information, is that Israel is not responsible for the explosion at the hospital in Gaza yesterday.

So the investigation isn't concluded, there might not have even been an official investigation, and all they're saying is Israel "isn't responsible".

None of what OPs headline claims.

[–] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a tweet from the white house national security council. That's completely independent of the article's claim that two pentagon officials gave them info.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Wow shocker the pentagon is defending its close partner in the war. Ill beleive them when they actually release evidence not just "The pentagon said so."

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. He was asked on the street by a random reporter.

Out of anything this is the strangest complaint. Why wouldn't he answer a street reporter?