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this post was submitted on 18 Oct 2023
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Came here to say the same thing. The license isn't good at all. What this 100% lead to is, if they succeed with their goals, and a couple years down the line have become the de-facto way to consume content, they will follow the enshittification route. They will close their source and start extracting payment from the creators to be listed or promoted. We've seen this game so many times. Just recently terraform also closed their source, but at least the terraform developers could fork it. You won't be able to do so with this app.
I am all for a software that does the same thing but is fully FOSS. This is the only way to get out of the enshittification loop we're stuck in.
CEO's statement:
Yeah, this doesn't fill me with confidence whatsoever they're not going to rugpull down the line. This is just empty words when their actual license prevents one from being the "master of your computer once again".
So how else would you combat malicious forks like what happened to new pipe? Honest question, I like this standard even if there are always more truly open source licenses, if this could become a standard that helps prevent bad actors from taking advantage of less savy users that's a big win to me and a move in the right direction all while being able to see the source code download it modify if i deem fit and install it. Perfect is the enemy of progress. What's your solution?
What happened to newpipe is the fault of Google's police's not allowing an official newpipe, not of Foss. The same issue can happen with this software just as well. There's plenty of Foss which doesn't have this issue, like Firefox
Ok but if Google is not willing to support this effort, like I asked what's your solution besides just letting it happen? Because that's not gonna spark confidence for mass adoption to move away from these bloated ad and tracker filled mainstream apps. You need to have steps for progress and this allows more control when those who are publishing said knock off applications in their store will not.
It doesn't matter whose fault it is.
If the same thing happens with this software, they will have it taken down. That's why the license exists.
Nice edit.
The reason why this happens only to newpipe and not to other Foss software like Firefox is because Google prevents an official newpipe on the app store. The could do the same with this app and license or not they'd have the same problem
No, it doesn't?
Trademarks. Anyone malicious can take your source-available code anyway, but if they infringe on your trademark by calling it "Firefox" or "Newpipe", you are legally in your right to take it down. Trademarks deal with fraud; copyright doesn't.
Iceweasel is a classic example of what happens when free software projects like Firefox seek to defend their trademark. They didn't want to allow Debian to use the Firefox name, as that may cause users to attribute quality problems to Mozilla when Debian is actually responsible because of the patches they had made.
Want to remove an app using the GrayJay name without your permission if it's a registered trademark? Here's a link to report it to Google Play.