I prefer the terms hetero and cishets
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Neither are good
Yeah you're right. One has been much more widely used. Then it fell out of favour in a big way when people realised how stupid, cringey, and damaging it is.
It went from being said nonchalantly by everyone to now almost exclusively being used in an ironic fashion by people who aren't straight. I know I do.
Let's not try to have some kind of weird, pathetic culture war with straight people as some kind of quest for retribution.
Even if one is "less bad" according to some made up metric you decided on, why would you want to stoop to the lesser of two evils? Why don't we all just not use someone's sexuality against them?
What's offensive is using someone's sexuality as an insult as stated in the OP. It doesn't matter how you try to justify it. It's a dick move. I don't care if you're gay. I'm also gay. It doesn't give anyone the right to be an asshole.
I'm literally just saying don't insult anyone based on their sexuality. That's it. Nothing more nothing less. The rest you are making up in your mind. It's wild to me how a conversation can go from "don't use someones sexuality as an insult" to "you don't care that gay people are getting executed" without me saying literally anything about straight people or gay people.
Lol imagine trying to take the moral high ground by saying you hope I fall off a cliff. Nice ๐
Both can be funny in the right context. Furthermore, using "straight" as an insult doesn't uphold any kind of systemic oppression, so I have a hard time reading it as anything other than a joke.
The most problematic thing about it is that it is reminiscent of homophobia, but y'all gotta learn to make the difference. Giving bigoted straight people a taste of their own medicine in a context where it cannot possibly hurt them (unlike actual homophobia) is funny.
Insults are a conversational, social, and emotional weapon. Weapons have valid uses, for example in self defence.
The use of many weapons has effects beyond the immediate violence they do. For example if you buy a gun from a cartel, you help them scale their business and sell more guns, leading to more gun violence. Likewise if you use slurs against marginalised communities, you reinforce the stigma and make the slur more potent, increasing the violence done later. You're emboldening an infrastructure of violence in both cases.
If you insult someone by calling them gay, you hurt them and you also hurt all gay people. But if you insult someone by calling them straight, you hurt them without hurting all straight people. Because you are not emboldening an extant infrastructure of violence.
Listen to your mental gymnastics. Just don't insult anyone with their sexuality. Period. You could take it even farther and just say "don't insult anyone" Seems pretty safe to me.
That suggestion seems to be beyond your capabilities, since you began your comment with a sarcastic quip intended to insult my reasoning capabilities.
The longest "no u" I've heard in a while, congrats.
If you don't want to be called a hypocrite, maybe you could stop being a hypocrite.
Buddy, I didn't insult u. I just said listen to what ur saying and maybe make better choices. Now u literally are insulting me. I cannot with u. Goodbye lol.