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They then attack those civilians while they're fucking off, or after they get to the location they told them to fuck off to. Not kidding they've done it five times by my count the past few days. They're also attacking journalists, hospitals and the like. And don't get me started on the white phosphorus.
So yeah, they're committing warcrimes.
Well, after pushing Hamas to the Gaza ousting Netenyahu and installing a PM who's actually interesting in peace would be a good start. There'll never be peace—and therefore violence is inevitable—as long as Netenyahu and his party are in charge. I'm not exaggerating.
You also can turn this around. As long as they are terrorists like the Hamas backed by the people around them there will be no peace because they have only one goal and that is to wipe the Jews out. I'm not exaggerating, they are actually founded on this, the The Protocols of the Elders of Zion are part of their charter.
Like I said there is no easy solution and I'm not stupid enough to tell you there is one. All included parties have fucked up big time.
No you can't, because:
1-Netenyahu has been standing in the way of peace since the Oslo accords, aka the when the conflict was the closest to being fully resolved (literally Netenyahu just had to follow the deal his predecessor made with Arafat and that would be it).
2-Hamas and Israel signed two ceasefires before, one in 2008 and another in 2012. Both included that Israel had to lift the blockade. Well that didn't happen so both fell through. Netenyahu also vehemently opposed the short-lived unified Palestinian government because it meant Palestinians would've been able to work towards peace again.
This is what I'm talking about. Hamas had (has?) some fucked up shit in their charter, but in the end they're not so insane as to reject reality. Meanwhile Netenyahu just changes reality to keep himself in power.
Also speaking of which, Hamas changed their charter in 2017 to only demand the return to 1967 borders.
Yes I can and you also very well know that this is not only about Hamas, but Iran, Hezbollah...
I agree on letting Netenyahu go, he is evolving into a Putin of Israel and quite an extremists. But your answers still sound very single minded.
That's because Netenyahu is the only reason the conflict has went on for so long. This whole mess should've ended in the 90s with the Oslo accords, but Netenyahu decided to just not appear when his predecessor was assassinated. Like literally he threw away peace just like that. Then he did it again in 2008 and 2012, as I said earlier.
Hamas has already proved its willingness to end the violence, and they've made three good faith efforts to do so (2008 and 2012 ceasefires, 2012/2013 unified Palestinian government). Israel hasn't reciprocated any of these. If you're gonna say "yes I can" then you need some sort of basis.
The next degenerate terror regime, supported by religious fanatics around them I would say. But like I said, letting him go would probably support a positive movement in this conflict.
Also you really want to make peace with this: https://lemmy.world/post/6815277