We can walk and chew gum. We can critique Hamas AND the Israeli government / IDF. We can accept Israel’s responsibility in pushing the Palestinian people to desperation for survival through apartheid and genocide, and we can condemn Hamas’ killing of civilians. We can call for Israel to immediately ceasefire and we can call for Hamas to immediately ceasefire. We can feel for Palestinian civilians even as we feel for Israeli citizens.

This is not black and white; life rarely is. It’s steeped in nuance. That’s okay to talk about.

[–] matcha_addict@lemy.lol 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We can critique Hamas AND the Israeli government / IDF

I already addressed this argument above. If you think my argument wasn't sufficient or there's anything wrong with it, please address it directly. Otherwise, I don't know what to tell you besides restate the same.

We can feel for Palestinian civilians even as we feel for Israeli citizens.

Absolutely. I hope you're not implying that I said the opposite.

[–] Instigate@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Palestinian resistance is the last thing you should critique

Here you’re conflating Hamas with all Palestinians and implying that Hamas’ actions are merely ‘Palestinian resistance’ which is just incorrect. Palestinian civilians should NOT be lumped in with their unelected (in the last 17 years) leaders, much as Jewish people should not be lumped in with Israel/their government. The majority of Palestinian citizens have never had an opportunity to vote for their leaders.

That point aside, the killing of civilians, whether intentional or through reckless disregard, should never be last on the list of condemnation. We can want Palestine to win their freedom and independence while criticising how Hamas is attempting to achieve that. We should be critiquing innocent slaughter wherever it exists and regardless of who is the perpetrator or victim.