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[–] Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Founadi, Hykes and Pahl founded "Docker Engine" and did not spin it out of their company "Docker Inc." as a separate non-profit

That's literally my point. Docker doesn't pretend to be a non-profit, WordPress does.

Sorry, but I think this applies to you more than it does to me.

What a blowhard way of saying the most childish response of "no u".

[–] dot20@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s literally my point. Docker doesn’t pretend to be a non-profit, WordPress does.

Your ‘points’ were:

  1. [Automattic] intentionally leads people to conflate the free and open-source software WordPress (WordPress.org) and their own proprietary and overpriced version.
  2. [WordPress.org and WordPress.com] are not the same people.

I’ve already provided rebuttals to both points:

  1. Most companies doing open source lead people to conflate their free and open source software with their own proprietary version.
  2. Both are quite literally led by the same person, and have been since their founding.

Now you have strayed the discussion to another ‘point’ (while accusing me of arguing in bad faith):

  1. WordPress ‘pretends’ to be a non-profit.

To humor you I shall also provide a rebuttal to this third point:

  1. WordPress doesn’t pretend to be anything of the sort, because:
  • WP.org claims, on its homepage, to be “the open source platform that powers the web,” “built by an open source community with decades of experience,” and “community at its core.” It does not claim to be a non-profit.
  • WP.com claims, on its homepage, to be “WordPress, Your Way,” “the best way to WordPress,” and “lightning-fast, secure managed WordPress hosting.” It does not claim to be a non-profit.
  • The WordPress Foundation claims, on its homepage, to be “a charitable organization founded by Matt Mullenweg to further the mission of the WordPress open source project”, because it is.

By the way… WP.org goes out of its way to recommend various hosting providers beside WP.com.

[–] Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  1. Most companies doing open source lead people to conflate their free and open source software with their own proprietary version.

No, other companies make it very clear considering that there is no non-profit organization when it's all controlled under one for-profit entity. You have not provided a single example of anything similar of a non-profit organization being used to benefit a for-profit organization because it is illegal.

  1. Both are quite literally led by the same person, and have been since their founding

Yes. That is the fucking problem. A non-profit is used to unfairly benefit a specific for-profit business. That is illegal and unethical.

WordPress.org is run by a non-profit. WordPress.com is run a separate for-profit entity. That is what I have been saying. WordPress.org gives preferential treatment because they allow a separate entity to use their trademarks while explicitly not letting others do the same.