There are people who need more aid than the busses are equipped for and the bus line runs specially equipped shuttles out to them on request at no cost (back when the busses had fares it cost the same as a bus ride).

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not that way in most other cities on the planet and you and I both know this.

And it doesn't address one of the many serious problems with car bans -- denying the disabled the right to travel on their own terms and not the bus services.

What happens when they cut routes or service?

Or refuse service for political reasons like during the lockdowns?

Or otherwise dictate when and where you get rides, or who can go with you, or how you travel, or how much stuff you can bring with you?

Or if the service becomes overwhelmed and they simply can't provide rides to everybody?

It's terrible and fucked up to expect the disabled to put up with it just so the c/FuckCars chucklefucks can get rid of what they deem as eyesores.

[–] gayhitler420@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago

i don't know how it is in most cities on the planet because i don't live in them and haven't looked into their public transit.

part of having a common good is defending and upholding it. usually when there's a problem with the routes people show up and yell loud enough that something gets done. I don't think they've cut a route and not replaced it with one that has more stops or split it into two that provide more coverage in like 20 years.

during covid here there were fewer busses running, but it was because of reduced ridership and they ran more on demand shuttles to make up the difference. they started installing big crazy air filters on the top of the busses too, so now you can't even smell a fart on one.

when there's more people than the route can handle you gotta wait, same as when there's more traffic than the road can handle. here when that unexpectedly happens they redirect people to other routes when possible.

a lot of what youre talking about is disabled people getting equal access to what car drivers have, which is good when the disabled person lives in a place that expects everyone to have a car. if a place were to ban cars, expect people to use public transport and operate public transport with enough volume and coverage to replace them, it would be better for the disabled than expecting each individual disabled person to own a car with expensive modifications to accommodate them and become licensed to operate it or hire a driver or service in the case they cannot become licensed.

serving the disabled and elderly is what's driven the expansion of bus routes and accessibility here. we don't even have car bans and it's a benefit for so many people!