This is what I read. Did you, in good faith, forget to mention that its true, non-masked name, is "Treaty of Non-Aggression between Germany and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics"? A ceasefire pact is not a "we are friends" pact, but a pact to not bomb the fuck out of each other. Why did Soviets few years later hold parts of Berlin and Germany to purge Nazis, as Allied Forces worked under USSR to defeat Hitler? Why did Allied Forces not agree to align with USSR and defeat Nazi Germany, until Hitler's regime internally failed with munitions and USSR was well on the way to defeat Hitler?

Do you know that the real "we are friends" energy radiates not out of a ceasefire pact between USSR and Nazi Germany, but between USA and Nazi Germany, considering USA was the basis for all of Hitler's racial segregation policies? Straight from a CIA news outlet. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/11/what-america-taught-the-nazis/540630/

[–] Rusty_Red@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think you need to take a breath mate...

Yes, the USSR and Nazi Germany were cooperative during WWII until the Nazis thought they could expand the eastern front. That is just a fact. I'm not saying they were Allied, but they weren't exactly enemies until the Nazi betrayal of said NAP.

I did not bring up the US at any point in my comment, but no I don't believe they were the good guy in this situation either. The civil rights of minorities in the US at the time were appalling and it's no wonder Hitler looked at that and sought to implement it against the "undesirables" in his country

Not all disagreement is hostile or an attack, I was simply providing a correction to the previous statement that the USSR and Nazi Germany did not militarily benefit each other. If you disagree that their agreements did not have military benefits for both sides, then I very much would like to hear that argument. Obviously once Germany expanded the eastern front, there was no cooperation.

[+] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What kind of military benefit did Soviets get from the USSR-NaziGermany Non Agression Treaty? Is it limited to not getting military supplies and personnel consumed and depleted? Because Soviets did not want to work together, but to stave off the threat of Nazi Germany becoming a bigger, deadlier regime (which it did soon enough), only for USSR to pummel their empire out of existence.

[–] Rusty_Red@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my opinion, a joint agreement of boundaries of a soon to be annexed country would be beneficial to both parties.

This is a rough analogy that doesn't touch on many of the intricacies of global politics so bear with me. If you and your neighbor both have a claim to a plot of land between you, and your options are to work together and come to an agreement, or to fight over it, wouldn't it be beneficial to both to make the agreement?

No, at no point were the USSR and Nazis allied. There were no trade agreements, no personnel support, and no treaty outside of the Pact. However, I think it is disingenuous to say that the USSR and Nazi Germany did not militarily benefit each other.